Landstar Satellite Tracking Drivers!!!!

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  1. Mortar Man

    Mortar Man Road Train Member

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    Those trailer tracking devices are pretty accurate but not quite as accurate as a Qualcom , although some may dispute that

    The qualcom can pin point you almost directly at every movement within about 200 ft or so give or take

    The trailer tracker gives the rough same information but not quite as precise
    Such as a general area

    So I guess what I'm saying is it's reasonable to say that tge trailer trackers have much more room for error and may impose lots of false or in accurate info for the reason they are not intended to detect each small movement such as a OBR or OBC

    This goes along with what tge orginal poster had said
     
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  3. Mortar Man

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    It goes also with what Roll over said

    You should CYOA because if the only tracking devise being used by the company is a trailer tracker
    Which is not intended to really do more than inventory equipment with location then you really should result to either

    1. Pictures ( date / time stamped)
    2. Getting your own OBC : so you can track the date time etc and trailer numbers and BOL to dispute any inaccurate claims made by the company

    At tge end of the day and with CSA -2010 you really need to watch these things as they may impose improper data to your scoring etc ...

    The company will CIOA and report things to the DOT to stay compliant to CSA so you should CYOA and be sure what they report if wrong is being accounted fir correctly ...

    It's your safety record on the line here too
     
  4. skeeter2

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    How does a (Student) have the nerve to come on here and make comments on what a (Student) knows very little if anything about, just sayin. :biggrin_25523:
     
  5. KE5WDP

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    Must be because he has GREAT teachers.
     
  6. hrdman2luv

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    Personally, I don't see how running legal means running safe. I drive when I'm awake and sleep when I get sleepy. How can you get any safer.

    Besides, since there's no DOT officer physically watching you sleep, then it all boils down to trust. They trust that you are getting the rest that your body needs to operate a commercial vehicle.
    And since it all boils down to trust, then why can't they trust us to pull over and get a nap or a full sleep, when we are actually tired?

    It all boils down to money, NOT safety.

    When the day comes that I have to look at my log book to tell me if I'm too tired to drive, then I'll go back to working in a machine shop.

    And those that run legal, keep this in mind. The more you brag about how much better, safer or financially equal it is, is only making it harder on those of us who still find "independence" a very important part of our lives. Those of us who still run the way we want to, because we want to, love having the American liberty of doing so.

    It's just my opinion (and only my opinion), but running legal because THEY SAY SO, means selling my liberty minded soul to the devil.
     
  7. swenjj

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    Personally, I don't see how running legal means running safe. I drive when I'm awake and sleep when I get sleepy. How can you get any safer

    makes sense, sometimes running legal means you have to run tired, depending on when you load and deliver if you start your day at a certain time you may have to run overnight in order to make delivery, it happens sometimes. trying to fit the 10 hour break in before a delivery or something..

    i have to run legal, we are tracked, and personally im glad our company does it though, i know too many friends who are forced to run way too many hours. i may get tired sometimes but i know i will only drive 11 in the 14 and never ever pushed to go over
     
  8. hrdman2luv

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    If they get there job done without injuring or killing anyone, if they arent causing any accidents or damaging anyone else's property, then they aren't working too many hours.

    And if they feel themselves that they are being pushed too hard, they need to grow a set, and tell their dispatcher to run the load him/herself.
     
  9. wreckless4thf

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    I don't ever run more than 11 hours a day. I do however like to stop when I am sleepy and take a nap without taking away my hours to work. I also sit for many hours sometimes waiting on a load to be ready to go once I have unloaded and spend that time in the sleeper or resting. The way it is now I will be stuck not being able to deliver my time sensitive loads on time if the trailer isn't ready to go when I get there.

    They don't need drivers to drive these trucks anymore. They need freaking robot's that operate when they say they can or can't. It's a dang shame we have let our jobs become what they are today and let people who have no clue about trucking make the rules of the road. Then when some of us complain about it you even got steering wheel holders who actually come out and defend them and there actions. This profession isn't worth relieving your urine on anymore and it's partly to blame on the idiots making the rules and the idiots that don't have a clue making a large % of the workforce. Were 100% o/o company. We aren't forced dispatch nor are we forced to run illegal. Nobody knows when I need to lay down to keep from hurting myself or others better than I. Taking the ability to pull over and take a nap when needed or catching rest waiting on a load to be ready while taking away the hours available to work was a huge mistake that we were able to adjust and keep legal before this crap begin.

    It isn't just us that will be effected by this, it will be the customers we service not being able to get there freight on time which will make them move there business to a carrier that will and in the end will take money from Landstar as well. I normally run 300-400 miles a day but spend many hours at leisure, the new laws prevent me from getting in those miles legally and now with trailer tracking will be impossible many times. What about automotive?? What will happen when factories start shutting there lines down when we come 30 minutes short of there on time delivery all because of a small shipper delay??? This is a nightmare imo.

    If all carriers had the little black box in there truck then all carriers would comply with this and we wouldn't lose the customers. But shippers are going to give there freight to the carriers that get there shipments on time regardless of delays. Yea there are companies that do operate on a satellite and will even shut down there drivers truck in the middle of the road if he/she ran out of hours but look at those companies!! There not any company I would work for. LTL carriers can get away with this but not regional/long haul TL carriers.
     
  10. hrdman2luv

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    If I have a coast to coast run, I don't stop (unless i get sleepy) until I have at least 1,000 miles in for the day. 1,000 miles is a good days work.

    I'm not bragging. But the old man that taught me to drive, taught me the way that he does it. And at 65 years old, that old man can still go coast to coast in 2 1/2 days without killing anyone.

    Log book rules are just like gun laws. It don't matter how many laws they create, some dummy is still going to go to far for too long.

    Personally I believe that safety guys and DOT enforcement are the skum of the industry. They are at the bottom of the totum pole in my book. Because they have no clue as to what my body is capable of. They have no clue of BS we have to put up with if we are an hour late.

    One thing I've ran into when I've gotten into heated discussions with these guys is their response is always the same "You should have planned your trip better"... Because they can't explain having to wait 2 hours to get a trailer tire fixed, that was flat when you picked it up. Or because the shipper made you wait an extra 3 hours because you asked him "how long is it going to take"....

    And the worst part of it, is the amount of steering whell holders who actually believe that log books make the roads safer.

    Truck drivers are a dying breed. They are being replaced by people who've been spoon fed the idea that everyone else on teh road is dangerous. And that if you don't comply with the laws, then they'll be just like them.
     
  11. CA_Medicine_Woman

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    I think the suggestion someone made that you start using technology to your advantage is the best suggestion. From time stamped pictures when you pick up or drop equipment, to installing a cheap web cam on your laptop and recording what's going on in front of you, to having your own GPS tracking.

    We drivers need to adopt the technology being used against us to cover our own butts. That does mean running legal, obeying speed limits, and so forth, which most of us do anyway.

    I can tell you that since I installed cameras on my rig years ago, I stopped getting tickets, stopped getting blamed for accidents that weren't my fault, and have nailed several hit-and-run drivers who hit my rig and then took off. I've also successfully challenged many false claims that I had log violations, including my favorite on how I allegedly fueled 480 miles away at a time when my rig was getting it's drive tires replaced.

    My latest "at fault" accident involved a woman who skittered across several lanes and cut me off, but hit me because her timing was off. The cop was getting ready to write me a ticket based on the word of the driver and passenger of the other vehicle, until he saw the video. He then wrote her the ticket, and chewed her passenger out for lying to him.

    Trust me, a small investment in technology of your own is your best move here, especially in light of the fact that technology belonging to someone else is being used against you.

    Fight fire with fire.
     
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