Law that straps are to be inside the rub rail

Guessing he just read the first post and responded. I don't see the problem. Secure is a good thing.

 

I agree. Everyone has different ways of securing, I was always told

"if another flatbedder sees you doing something different from what they do, they automatically assume its illegal or wrong".

It's so true haha.

 

yup and I give 'em a minute, if it makes sense I keep listening, if not or they start putting me down they get the you drive your truck and I'll drive mine. Get some eye daggers in a hurry with that one brother lol

 

I hear that. Yeah, there's a lot of characters out here for sure haha.

 

I had a guy come over to me when I was loading some skidded coils this week and tell me two straps are not necessary on each of them. They weighed around 8500 each. I just smiled and said thanks for the tip.

 

I had a guy get all over me because I run my chains down through my stake pockets end up the out side. He said I need to run them to the next pocket so the could not get destroyed if I sideswiped some one. My issue is either way a part of the hook would be in the outside. The CHP has not said anything to me during inspection.

 

Your wrong again Real Deal, lol. Incorrect facts are the facts that get our ##### in trouble.

 

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Actually this photo shows another topic all together. The strap in the photo is technically inside the rub rail because it is above it, the webbing anyway. The steel hook is attached to the rub rail and thus all the weight of the strap is pulling on that flimsy rub rail. Rub rails are not weight limit load rated and thus are not secure cargo attachment points under the regs. If you read the notices they mention this numerous times regarding the WLL of rub rails. What this thread is discussing is hooking your straps to approved tie down locations, ie. under the frame rail, but routing the webbing outside of the rub rail. Now while it is true after 2006 you cannot be cited for having your webbing and chains outside the rub rail, you can still be cited for using your rub rails as cargo securement points. Read the regs and you will see what I mean.


Sec. 393.104(f)(4)
"Kinedyne also recommended retaining the existing Sec. 393.104(f)(4). However, Kinedyne recommended that if this section is eliminated, then the rub rail should be re-identified as a "securement rail" and needs to have an established WLL rating by the trailer manufacturer per Sec. 393.108."


This was never implemented and most rub rails still have no WLL rating. Usually only see this on higher end trailers and they have to be spaced out a minimum distance. If your trailer has the rub rail WLL boiler plate or sticker then you cannot be cited. Everyone else is out of luck. So all you guys hooking your straps to the rub rail itself are playing with fire.

 

I agree. I see this all the time and it bothers me, I won't say anything because I'm not going to get into that with a driver, but I've seen rub rails ripped off the side of a trailer in a wreck. I always put my strap through the rail, and connect the buckle or hook to the underside rail. I can't stand it when I get a trailer that has been used with straps outside the rub rail because it bends them in and it's very difficult to slip my hooks in there, though that's just complaining so ill stop lol.

I'm also afraid of rubbing against something and the strap getting torn.