I read in our local rag that the city was hiring for snow plow/ street sweeper etc. position.
It said that you must have a "CDL A with tank endorsment"
No drugs, no smoking (City is a smoke free employer)
GED
Clean crimanial background.
Clean driving record.
I told my wife that I was 90% of the way there all I needed was to get my CDL A w/tank
As I have a perfect driving record, no tickets ever! Not bad for 38 yo.
No drugs...ever
No smoke (quit last Jan 1)
Ged last winter as I was bored.
Not a criminal
So I got the CDL book last week studied it for 3 or 4 days took all the tests (cept passenger and haz mat) and got 100%
Now This week Im getting my DOT physical out the way, will not be a problem.
NOW, I need to spend some time in a truck and I dont know anybody who drives.
Been asking around and nobody seems to have an answer.
Most of the people I have talked to got their license or started driving so long ago that that they basicly just hired on and started driving back when.
I cant (nor do I want to attempt too) do that.
I really need to find someone that will let me tag along with them and let me drive during slow traffic times and such.
I have been putting this off for a couple years because I KNEW this part would be a challenge but it just seems like a waste for me to not get it.
Most everybody I know either has back due child support, or a old dwi or something that would prevent them from doing this.
Being only 50 miles from Canada. there are several jobs here that you need to be able to cross (not the one with the city, but who knows how long that will be open?) the border and thats no problem for me either, where again, most of the people I know cant for some stupid little reason or another.
Maybe I just hang with a bunch of bad people? Lol
Anyway, Im not looking to get into long haul (who is? lol)
But I gotta get my CDL to work for the city, or even just working for a construction company driving a dump truck which is an option also.
Any ideas on who or how I might make the needed connection to get in a truck?
This a small town of about 5000 so it sucks a little bit harder than if I was in spokane or something.
Any help/ thoughts, are greatly appreciated!
CoolRide
BTW Im in Colville Wa if this helps, thanks all
Learner permit & help gettin in a truck
Discussion in 'Questions From New Drivers' started by CoolRide, Nov 14, 2007.
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Bump.
Did I post this in the wrong place?
If so I apologize
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Good Lord. 73 views and Im still talking to myself.
Im not contagious (jus got my DOT card, and doc says Im great)
I been reading everything I can on this great site since I joind and it doesnt look to me like I asked either the wrong question or asked in the wrong place, but then again, Im new.
I suppose it could be that nobody has an answer? But I have seen LOTS of great answers to what seem to me anyway a lot trickier questions.
Is there a secret handshake?
I can be a bit "wordy" maybe I should rephrase?
I have a brand new learners permit for a class "A" with tank endorsment / airbrake. I have no money to rent a truck (this is a tiny town and I doubt I could rent one anyway)
I have six months before it expires and I really want to learn to drive.
I have / am checking with the local employees that might hire me to do other things AND get some time in their trucks, most want a minimum of one year driving experience though.
What would you do in my boots? Please.
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Two of us regular drivers trained the fork-lift battery shop manager for his CDL using company equipment on Saturdays. The company was being nice to him because the fork-lift department was being downsized due to lifts that could be plugged in rather than having their batteries removed and placed on a charger. The company would not allow training on city streets, only in our parking area and on the highway. He passed his CDL road and pre-trip inspection tests, but never became a driver for the company because they required 18 months of recent experience.
I am employed at a different company now, and have notified them of my retirement date. The company wants me to train one of their straight-truck drivers who has his learning permit to advance from Class B to Class A. My point is that companies frequently help their employees move up. However, you can see how their insurance already covers this situation, and us regular drivers either donated our Saturday mornings to help a co-worker, or we are already on the clock. I will say that being an instructor is boring and frustrating compared to a regular solo work day. -
I worked on the dock of a LTL company on a regular shift. Then I went driving with one of their drivers on my time off to get my CDL. They didnt pay me to do the learning, but they allowed me to use their equipment.
It worked out well for everyone. I got my CDL, they got a driver with experience on one of their routes, and trained in all aspects of freight movement, bills and paperwork without them having to train me on their time.
Given the option, I would do it again the same way. I earned as I learned.
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id say your best option would be to find a local school. as people have stated if you work for the company they will help you out but if you dont work for a company who employs class a cdl's you will have a hard time. most people for insurance reasons wont take out some one with a permit to teach them. you might get lucky but a trucking school would probubly be your best bet.
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Don't know nothing bout the Colville, WA area, but in my area, some of the trucking schools will let you rent the tractor/trailer to make one attempt at the driving test. Here in CA, the CDL driving test starts off with reciting/demonstating a safety precheck and airbrake test. When you pass, the next phase is skill test inside the DMV lot, when you pass that, the last phase is actual driving on surface street and the freeway. If one fails the first part, he/she never goes on to the 2nd phase of the test, and the CDL license applicant must return another day. Thus, he/she must come up with the $$ to rent the tractor-trailer again.
Had you tried soliciting the owner-operators in your area to see if they'll rent you their truck/trailer? Another option is going to the nearest truckstop, find a company driver who's layed over waiting for his 36-hour reset, and solicit him to see if he'll let you use the equipment to take the driving test. -
The sad truth is unless you know someone or work for an outfit that will allow you to practice on their equipment the only other viable option is to go to an accredited school. Most companies have a no rider policy and for insurance reasons most companies will not let you "practice" on their equipment either. The system is designed for entry level candidates to go thru a school then hire on with an outfit that will continue your training. The lack of responses to your posts is due to the above factors. The old way of DIY truckers is definitely becoming a thing of the past thanks to the insurance companies. Good luck whatever you decide to do!
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Thanks all for the responses.
Washington state just changed the law to where after the first of the year, you HAVE to go to an accredited school.
Which I think is groovy and I would love to if I could afford too, but I had to borrow the $67 for my D.O.T. physical, how embarrassing. I have not been able to work in 4 years because of shoulder injuries. This will not be a D.O.T. problem.
Anyway I have my D.O.T. and permit now, before the Jan 1 deadline which is what I wanted.
A friend of mine who has driven long haul for a few years jus blew into town and found an ad for local job.Hauling lumber on a flat bed back and forth between two towns here about 50 miles apart.
The boss said if you are working it, you can do three trips a day, at $50 a trip.
Im assuming that this is not very good pay, but its a great chance for me and if I get it, $50 a trip MORE than Im making now lol.
So my friend asked him if he took this job could he bring me along and train me for a month or whatever it takes me to be able to pass the test (with bosses truck) then friend would move on to long haul again , with same boss, he has many positions, and I could take over this 50 mile back and forth job between the lumber yard and mill.
Boss said he wanted to meet with both of us this week and talk about it!
So Heres at least one possibility.
It is very tough finding any work in this little town. Even the employment office told me to forget about finding anything between about Sep. and Jan.
Now that was just looking for general labor. Which is why Im determined to get my CDL because it seems even when there is nothing else out there, there is usually a cdl "A" job.
I dont know why. As I said in a previous post I think so many people have a hit against their drivers license or some small thing in their background check that wont alow them to get a job maybe?
Dunno.
Anyway, thanks again for the help and information and I will keep ya updated if anybody cares.
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Good luck with your endeavors. I know how the small town life is. I come from a town of about 900 people - no mayor, no local police etc. Unless you want a job at one of the two convenience stores off the main highway, you drive 30 miles to the first "real" town to get a job.
Keep us updated. I for one am very interested to see how this all pans out for you.
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