Lease Purchase Fuel Management Strategies

Discussion in 'Lease Purchase Trucking Forum' started by Aminal, Aug 14, 2014.

  1. Mr. Mister

    Mr. Mister Light Load Member

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    Not if your carrier picks up the road use tax. :)
     
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  3. Aminal

    Aminal Heavy Load Member

    Gotta split hairs on taxes. IFTA (International Fuel Tax Agreement) takes miles in a state and gallons purchased in that state into account and factors a tax. Road use tax is strictly a function of miles.

    JCT Ops are blessed. We pay neither so we don't have to factor those taxes into our fuel and road plans.
     
  4. MysticHZ

    MysticHZ Road Train Member

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    Sorry, I wasn't clear. This is directed to the OP.
     
  5. ew2108

    ew2108 Road Train Member

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    help me understand that looks like the tax is 41.15cpm based off what i've found but north Carolina is 61.15 cpm
    if both SC and NC have a 3.85 cash price would't it be smarter to fuel in south Carolina.
     
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  6. Mr. Mister

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    Also, don't get so wrapped up in your fuel network that you pass up an opportunity that's outside of it.

    As an example, I passed an out of network mom & pop fuel stop on the way to the consignee with $3.579/gallon in Arkansas, where all the other fuel stops are around $3.789/gallon along that same route. I didn't need fuel, so I just noted the location for my return trip.

    Heading back west, I pulled in there and grabbed 50 gallons to get me to Oklahoma City where I could fill up at $3.529/gallon at a network fuel provider. If I limited myself to network fuel stops only, I'd have wound up paying an extra $8.
     
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  7. Aminal

    Aminal Heavy Load Member

    You know, that's a good question. I hadn't thought to track it that way but since I do track it by purchase in an Excel workbook it should be pretty simple to whip up a formula to pull that together. Then I can track that against the National Average and see how I'm doing in that respect. I'll do that and let you know.
     
  8. Aminal

    Aminal Heavy Load Member

    Someone else will have to help with IFTA. Since I don't have to pay or file IFTA I don't have any idea how all that balances out. All I know is it's a function of how many miles you run in each state and how much fuel you purchase in each state. The rest is an IFTA mystery to me.
     
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  9. Aminal

    Aminal Heavy Load Member

    Agreed but be careful. Might get some old watery gooey diesel that you'd wish you passed on. Good judgement and common sense should help steer you there. If it looks like you wouldn't dare use the restroom there and there's cobwebs on their only diesel pump you might re-think their fuel. If it's a decent place and they seem to do a descent trade (enough volume to keep the fuel in the ground fresh) might be a great deal and worth it. Just be careful. From my truck stop managing days I can tell you mark up on fuel isn't all that much. In our area it's generally only about .10-.12 cents per gallon so if someone is running way lower than everyone else I'd have to wonder how. All the stations in an area basically get their fuel from the same places. They may have their own fleet and their own rack but it comes from the same tanks and their pricing is all within a couple cents of each other at the rack. Even the big guys that buy and sell futures. Pretty unusual for a Mom and Pop to be able to way under cut the big players in the fuel game but it does happen sometimes. Sometimes you have a Native American owned place that is tax exempt from even the State Excise tax included at the pump. You never know and a sweet deal is nice when you find it but just be careful and use some judgement.
     
  10. 6 Speed

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    Just because you never see a statement, doesn't mean you aren't paying for it.
    Just saying.
     
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  11. ipogsd

    ipogsd Heavy Load Member

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    This is bad advice. You pay IFTA based on miles run in each state and your average MPG.
    The money you pay into IFTA at the pump is in essance a escrow account, a down payment.
    The smart way to buy fuel is to strip away the fuel taxes when trying to deciding to buy fuel, for example in NC or SC.

    At the end of the quarter you will have paid the same amount if they owe you or you owe them. I'd much rather owe them $200, knowing I paid $ 500 less in fuel.
     
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