Leasing at Prime

Discussion in 'Prime' started by ironpony, Jun 25, 2012.

  1. duhduh

    duhduh Light Load Member

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    Tanks Iron Pony lol
     
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  3. Chessguy

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    Can I assume that lease payments would be much lower if you had a straight lease, not a purchase type? How much lower, if you know?
     
  4. ironpony

    ironpony Road Train Member

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    It's something like a couple hundred per week, and up.
     
  5. silenteagle

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    Operating costs on a lease purchase are actually lower than the lease. First of all, you do have to have a down payment in order to enter into the Ace Lease with Prime. ($13,000, but can be as low as $10,000 depending on longevity and driver rating) You have the choice of 3 year or 4 year lease. The regular lease charges 2.5 CPM for the tire fund and 4.5 CPM as a part of the lease payment, which is not a part of the Ace lease. You pay 1.0CPM on the ace lease, which will be refunded upon completion of the lease. The BALOON payment is a whopping $1 at the end of the lease. Should I complete my lease I will have paid $117,000 for my 12' Cascadia that had 42 miles on it when I picked it up.
     
  6. ironpony

    ironpony Road Train Member

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    Not picking a fight... translation: you pay more weekly on an ACE lease.
     
  7. Chessguy

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    How much do they go for new when buying it outright?
     
  8. silenteagle

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    No, IP, I pay less with the Ace lease.

    Cost of a Cascadia is (ballpark) $110,000 using the Prime configuration. Finance that and you are paying $150,000 or more including finance charges.

    I pay a lower payment than a regular lease, and I don't pay the CPM charges of a regular lease.
     
  9. ABFer

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    ...............
     
  10. Chessguy

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    Thanks, SE. Cool stuff.
     
  11. ironpony

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    Okay... we got it straightened out. SE was speaking about the "cost" of a tractor. The ACE lease he's under involves the purchase of a tractor, and normally you must have 3 years of lease operator experience before they allow you into one. I'm on a strict lease, so the "cost" of a tractor really doesn't enter into it.

    Considering weekly payments... SE's lease-purchase agreement cost is amortized over 3-1/2 years, to take into account the 6 months he ran that truck under a lease agreement, while mine is amortized over 3 years. I end up paying about $75 less per week. If you extrapolate the numbers to a standard 3-year ACE lease, SE would be paying significantly more per week.

    SE doesn't incurr some of the per-mile charges that are put into escrow that I do. It's a difference in the contract used to protect the lease operator from charges that the owner operator is expected to pick-up on his own. For example, the mileage charge is put in escrow to repair damages to your tractor; if you walk away from the lease, Prime retains the ballance, but you get the ballance back if you complete the lease. That's about $140 average that is retained from my settlements for tires and mileage escrow.

    We didn't include my APU payment, health insurance, settlement accounting services and occupational accident insurance (which I believe SE is required to carry as well) in our comparison.
     
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