Leasing at Prime

Discussion in 'Prime' started by ironpony, Jun 25, 2012.

  1. Skateboard1956

    Skateboard1956 Bobtail Member

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    Are lease trucks governed at 65? I understand fuel is your biggest controllable expense. So please don't go there. I used to run 72 with cruise on and get 6.6 mpg with a 500 detroit. Any faster and it dropped off fast. I just wondered.
     
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  3. jayhawker_1012

    jayhawker_1012 Light Load Member

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    Yes lease trucks are governed at 65 mph.
     
  4. ironpony

    ironpony Road Train Member

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    At 79,000 lbs and 65, I tend to run about 6.3 to 6.7 depending on the terrain and the trailer. That's a bad week. Many folks jumping into one of our leases believe more miles equates to more money, but that's not the fact. It's about gross revenue, and (since it's my thread) controlling expenses. Same weight, dropping down to the mid-50's I get 7.8 to 8.2. That makes quite a difference in the settlement check.
     
  5. Skateboard1956

    Skateboard1956 Bobtail Member

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    I understand mpg makes a difference in your bottom line. That wasn't my question nor was it the point of the question. But thanks. As an old o/o I get the bottom line. The other big factor is what the freight is paying. And as you have said before its first come first serve on loads. No real choices there. The fm controls it.
    As for the trucks being governed I understand that's a deal the government is coming up with as I understand it and that's fine. In the late 90's everyone was screEaming about separate speed limits for trucks and cars in Texas having seperate speed limits and they finally raised the limit to match the cars. Now we're doing it again even though it was proven that separate speed limits were unsafe. Oh well, guess we don't learn from our mistakes.
    By the way, is this your thread MT, or did you just start it? It don't matter, feel free to tell me again about mpg. It's a good reminder.
     
  6. ironpony

    ironpony Road Train Member

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    I have to remind myself all the time about fuel economy, driving techniques, etc. When you look at the cost of hammering down all the time, it just makes sense to slow down whenever you can.

    Rates... there are controls on how a FM runs his board. Economic controls. They can't steer all the good loads to just a few people because their commission is based on the overall success of their board- all of the drivers. By the same token, they are fined when they loose a driver. Rates are what they are, and the dispatch system tries to match the best load available to you. It's also set to avoid having a single driver cherry-pick the best loads. Seems to work well enough.
     
  7. silenteagle

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    Biggest reason for the governed speed is insurance costs. Prime is mostly self insured, and must have effective risk mitigation in place to satisfy the bond issuer to secure the self insurance bond. Same for the On-Guard system and lane departure system. They are tools that I use to effectively mitigate risks in my daily commute to the next job.
     
  8. Skateboard1956

    Skateboard1956 Bobtail Member

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    Thanks. I understand the insurance issue. And I appreciate your answers. Are any of the trucks better with fuel economy then others? I know I was happy with my FL classic with the 500 Detroit and super ten. Are the trucks straight 10 speeds or supers?
     
  9. ironpony

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    All straight ten's. My opinion is the DD15/Cascadia is better on fuel than the new ISX. Driven properly, they are getting mid 8's at 75,000+ lbs GVW.
     
  10. silenteagle

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    Not sure about this, but I think Prime was getting some Cascadias with a 3.25 rear end, which would drop your 55mph down to about 1125rpms. That would put 60 at around 1225 and 65 right at about 1325. That is a bit lower than the 3.36 rear ends. With air tabs you could probably run a 3.25 truck at 60 and still get 8's some of the time. Not sure the consequences of that 3.25 on the hills though.
     
  11. Newtrucker83

    Newtrucker83 Medium Load Member

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    Ironpony question! I don't have any bills or responsibilities. I want to do a short lease when I go for my upgrade. My only expense is food and cellphone. I usually just buy stuff for sandwiches to make on the truck. Would you suggest a 3,6 month lease with no money saved for my situation?
     
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