Leasing owner operators and trailers

Discussion in 'Ask An Owner Operator' started by Dino soar, Jan 20, 2024.

  1. ihaveaquestion

    ihaveaquestion Medium Load Member

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    Honestly probably the best way is an owner operator shares their tax returns in routes/lanes you run or will run.. Too many variables to give exact. Also insurance quotes runoff your ZIP Code so no one will be able to give you a real insurance number without knowing your safety record and your ZIP Code someone could say 16 grand but then you’ll run a quote on your ZIP Code and it’ll be like 14 grand or 18 grand a year.

    Not sure what type of trailer Hauled or product you moved.. say you do flatbed do you just do 80,000 gross vehicle weight? or do you do heavy haul permits?… or do you just drive around in a dry van and do nearly 3500 miles plus and blow out your 70hr every week?

    regardless the best way to try to manage the numbers is if you’re an owner operator, or anyone talk driving their own equipment one roughly wants to score at least 40% of the gross revenue for pay, the rest is all overhead or managing. 40% Driving pay.

    if you’re just putting the equipment out, 5% cap rate, kind of industry standard that’s what most companies net after taxes even; even major companies their net income is typically 5-10% take away after all the math runs out… for most winners or losers yearly, whether small or large or just a solo guy is, what happened in the year at the carrier or in the fleet, did they have a lot of accidents/tickets, so had to pay a lot of lawyer fees. Or did they just have equipment sitting around not moving or failures, or did they haul steady and churned out a good year
     
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  3. Dino soar

    Dino soar Road Train Member

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    I do have cash on hand and I'm still not sure whether or not I would use that or a factoring company, or maybe the factoring company just in the beginning.

    Actually if I used some quick pays in the beginning that would probably be enough to get things rolling and conserve some cash to get started.

    They make me nervous those factoring companies because there's a lot of fine print and I've heard people have had a hard time getting away from them or getting their own contacts back and that sort of thing.

    I don't think there's any requirement to pay an owner operator workman's comp is there? I don't think so in pennsylvania.
     
  4. Long FLD

    Long FLD Road Train Member

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    You don’t have to have work comp for an owner operator on your authority. At most the owner op may have to carry an occupational accident policy on themselves if your state requires it.
     
  5. Rideandrepair

    Rideandrepair Road Train Member

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    I’ve heard everything from 5-15%. The average seems to be 10%. That’s for someone to use your authority. Their Trailer. 100% chargebacks for everything you provide. You’re responsible for keeping everything Legal. Insurance. Filing fuel taxes, everything else. O/O pays 2290 and IRP and BT Ins. himself. You would need to make them an Authorized Carrier Rep. to be able to sign Ratecons. Adds up to a lot of risk, and the paperwork/ filings/ record keeping. Might not be a bad deal with the right person with the right attitude. Wrong person with a bad attitude would be a problem.
     
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