Legalize Engine (Jake) Brakes

Discussion in 'Truckers Strike Forum' started by GlobalCannibal77, Jun 28, 2011.

  1. Svoray

    Svoray Medium Load Member

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    It's probably a newbie driver thing but I normally down shift down to round 5th gear and from there I can generally stop with the brake/clutch no problems. Now with that said, I hardly use engine brakes but I support the option. I'm a sucker for anything safety related.
     
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  3. GlobalCannibal77

    GlobalCannibal77 Bobtail Member

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    Its not about needing them, its about fighting for rights, before they take away more. You don't really ever technically NEED it, but there are a lot of circumstances where it helps out. People drove and stopped trucks all the time, before they were around. But nowadays with over-sized loads getting the size they are, it just makes life easier to use them. Engine brakes save money, they allow safer stopping, and if you put them on correctly they can be quieter than the truck taking off. But like I said before, if you are tolerant and let them take away the ability to use engine brakes, without risking getting a ticket, its just a matter of time before they take away more rights. Eventually it will seriously affect how easily, and safely you can do your jobs...
     
  4. SHO-TYME

    SHO-TYME Road Train Member

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    I love the towns with a "NO ENGINE BRAKE" signs, yet I get someone next to me with a car stereo that's so loud I hear it in my truck or motorcycles or pickups with no mufflers, that no one does anything about.
     
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  5. Road Dog

    Road Dog Medium Load Member

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    Most places,villages,etc.have put the no Jake Brake law into effect to solve a problem.I live in one of those villages and every time someone uses a Jake here the windows rattle.A Jake is supposed to be used for braking in hilly or mountanis country.Not when stopping for a traffic light in town.Way too many jerks out there using Jakes just for the fun of it.I drove for many years and yeah I had a Jake on my truck.But I used it responsibly,with no problems.
     
  6. GlobalCannibal77

    GlobalCannibal77 Bobtail Member

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    I get that people need a little respect, while using them, at least if they feel the need to have one that is excessively noisy. But there are ways that you can have/use an engine brake, where it is quieter than the trucks take off. Which if what they have a problem with is systems that are too loud, why not just take away the rights of the people that feel the need to wake people up at 3 am. That's not what they are doing, they are taking the rights away from all truckers, regardless of the systems on their trucks, or the amount of respect they have. My dad hauls over-sized loads, and it helps him save his truck brakes significantly, if he uses the engine brake. And the fact of the matter is, his engine brake makes about half the noise of his trucks take off. But even with that, with the laws being set up the way they are, he risks getting a ticket every time he goes past one of those signs, when most people wouldn't even notice him using it. They already have restrictions in place, throughout the nation, for noise pollution. Enforce that law if what you have a problem with is the loud engine brakes. But there is no need to outlaw all engine brakes, because some people are inconsiderate. This is just like gun laws. Our gun rights are disappearing fairly quickly. They are taking rights away from the people that know how to use the device safely, because of the people that do not, or refuse too. If you outlaw guns, the only people with guns will be outlaws. Why punish responsible people for the irresponsible ones. If they want to enforce 'noise pollution' laws, I wouldn't have a problem with it. I have a problem with a full on ban, because a couple people got annoyed...
     
  7. kajidono

    kajidono Road Train Member

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    This isn't just a matter of town or cities banning jakes on surface streets. They've got no jake brake signs all over the interstates now. ###### if I'm turning mine off with the way these lunatics drive their cars around me.
     
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  8. Saienga

    Saienga Medium Load Member

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    Carlin, NV on I80, just at the middle of the EB downgrade, nasty little hill, especially if you want to get off at the exit for the Pilot...Sign: No Engine Brake

    Ohio turnpike, near the bottom of one of the longer grades (by the Cuyahoga, maybe?)...Sign: No Engine Brake

    Stupidest local ordinance: The folks that put up the signs that say "No Brake Retarders" I kid you not, I've seen this sign.
     
  9. Winchester Magnum

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    Florida even has them entering their coops......but at least they only ban unmuffled engine braking.

    I know that spot on the buckeye turnpike. I Jake all the way down it, but only if the temp is over 80 degrees or under 40....(grin.)
     
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  10. rookietrucker

    rookietrucker Trucker Forum STAFF Staff Member

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    You must have one of those very cooool running trucks :biggrin_25522::biggrin_2559:

    I have a unmodified factory installed tool, that is part of my truck. I use it when necessary and do not pay attention to those signs. I pass through many small towns where the speed limit will drop 20-30 mph without notice. Guess who's sitting a block down from that speed limit sign ?

    And no I don't drive a day cab or drive through the truck stop with it on. :biggrin_25522:
     
  11. papanuge

    papanuge Light Load Member

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    Engine brakes are not the problem... The noise created is the problem. Put a good muffler on the truck and use the jakes all you want.
     
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