Leonard's Express gamble

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  1. xlsdraw

    xlsdraw Road Train Member

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    The outfit in KC, that my boss has had his 3 trucks leased to for 3 years, has been starving us out for months. My boss finally drew the conclusion that we have to try somewhere else.

    I'm just a driver for the truck owner but I'm willing to try to stick with him and make the move to another lease on outfit. He chose Leonard's Express out of New York. This industry has taught me to be sceptical so I know this move is just a calculated gamble. Could be great, or terrible, or anywhere in between.

    Tomorrow morning, I go to get the truck I drive a Federal DOT inspection and then head over to a clinic for the drug test. Then we'll see what they tell us to do next.

    When I joined this truck owner 1.5 years ago I thought it would work out well being leased to an all O/O outfit with only 50-60 trucks. But it sure didn't turn out that way, presumably because of the market downturn. Hoping that the much larger customer base at Leonard's Express gives us a more stable situation. I guess only time will tell.
     
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  2. JonJon78

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    I thought Leonard's was out of Wisconsin? The white trucks with green letters?
     
  3. xlsdraw

    xlsdraw Road Train Member

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    Headquarters are in Farmington, NY on I-90. Supposed to be 400 or so power units. I'm not sure if that's just their company trucks or company and O/O trucks. I think they have a handful of locations and several agents spread out across the country.
     
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    A few of their eastern locations have warehouses from the research I've done. The Headquarters in NY has a trucking school on site so I assume they likely take on students.
     
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  5. HillbillyDeluxeTruck

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    I know absolutely zero about Leonards Express, so hopefully y'all have good luck. I think Chinatown has said good things about them iirc.
     
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  6. starmac

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    I have a dumb question to guys that lease to companies. I ran my own numbers from day one, until here recently and am jus leased on to a very small family type deal, so have no real experience in the matter.

    When you are looking for a company to lease to, does it really make sense to lease to any company that has a few hundred, or even a hundred trucks of their own?
    I mean will they not make sure their trucks are loaded first?
     
  7. xlsdraw

    xlsdraw Road Train Member

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    Good question, and part of the reason I know this is a gamble. As a driver for the truck owner I have limited say in where he chooses to move. I wish he had the financial means to run under his own authority again like he was able to do years ago before cancer pretty well broke him. Part of the reason I chose to stick with him is his heart. It's not easy to take what life has thrown at him and try to rebuild again from scratch. He's done right by me the 1.5 years I've been associated with him and would like to see him succeed.
     
  8. starmac

    starmac Road Train Member

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    I have always found it hard to bail on someone that has sure treated me right, and hopefully it works out. I have worked with smallish outfits, myself.
     
  9. REO6205

    REO6205 Trucker Forum STAFF Staff Member

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    It can happen. Years ago we leased to a lumber company that had it's own trucks. It got ugly real fast.
    We got all the tarped loads, all the loads going into dead zones for a back-haul, and the back hauls we got were always bottom of the barrel stuff.
    We lasted six months and bailed out.
     
  10. HillbillyDeluxeTruck

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    I think about stuff like that. It makes sense that a company that has both co trucks and lease operators, that the really really good freight goes go the co trucks 1st. I mean it makes the most financial sense.

    But in my case, it seems that our o/o's seem to get the best loads. Ive run on both sides with this company and as a company driver, I dh more and tak/am given a lot of loads that the o/o's turn down. Ive also made it known that I dont turn freight down, send me where the freight needs to go. This has helped to keep me running vs sitting like some of our more picky o/o's.
     
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