Let's build what the Trucker wants... W900 with DD15 @525

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  1. Long FLD

    Long FLD Road Train Member

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    It’s been over 3 years and the people who have a whole business built around it haven’t cracked the code yet.
     
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  3. Oxbow

    Oxbow Road Train Member

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    They need to start building their own dashes maybe? I don't know anything about it. It still baffles me that one wire can be used for numerous functions because of different frequencies - like being able to get internet, phone, and tv all on one wire, and they all work at the same time.

    It will also be interesting if emission laws are relaxed in the near future. I think it is probably fair to say that enforcement will not be as stringent for the next few years.
     
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  4. Hammer166

    Hammer166 Crusty Information Officer

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    It's not different frequencies, but each information packet has an ID attached to it. So everything on the canbus sees everything, they can just ignore what isn't for them (or read it, that's why your ELD can read fault codes) That's why when you change a part that's on the bus, you have to program the computer. It needs to know the ID of the new part so it can talk/listen to it.
     
  5. Oxbow

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    I'm still in the dark ages! With 2 out of 3 of our trucks we still communicate with a steel rod between my and the engine!

    To your point though, I still think that there will be a solution to communication issues between Cat engines and Paccar's digital dash - at some point - if there is enough demand for it.
     
  6. Long FLD

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    Even before the digital dash there were certain functions that Elkhorn couldn’t access in some of the cab modules. They’d do the swap and have to get the trucks to Peterbilt and have them make changes. The big bosses that run the group of local Peterbilt dealers cut them off from doing that before the digital dashes.

    As far as emissions, I could see things getting relaxed in the future but I don’t see things going backwards that manufacturers already have in the pipeline for meeting the 2027 standards.
     
  7. Derailed

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    I drove one just like that early in my career. It was a long legged old truck and rode really nice
     
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  8. KDHCryo

    KDHCryo Medium Load Member

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    True, True...

    Manufacturers use this, all of them.

    Hopefully someone sues John Deere to get them to stop. Deere would prolly be the easiest target as they are AG market, and can't just making engines for AG like when CAT quit OTR
     
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  9. Long FLD

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    It’s not really anything to do with manufacturers or the right to repair stuff. Part of the greenhouse gas rules was that they have to use technology to make the engines more difficult to tamper with.
     
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    Sumtinlidat Light Load Member

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    The X15 for me has been a great fuel saver. At 110-129k gvw she’ll still average 4mpg’s a week. Some weeks better than others. But it has a lag that I can’t stand. Not sure if it’s the way the pedal communicates with the ecu or if it doesn’t eat the amount of fuel I’m thinking in my head she should be eating at full throttle. It’s got the 605 in it but doesn’t compare to the kind of throttle response/power on demand my 550 Cat had.
    Haven’t ran into anyone using PDI or bullydog products yet to get any feedback on how good the tuners work.
     
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  11. KDHCryo

    KDHCryo Medium Load Member

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    Bull.

    IF manufacturers want to continue selling engines, then they could voluntarily make it easier for end users to work on them without needing dealership level access to 2500$ a year software licenses in order to change a NOX sensor or water pump or fuse.

    For example, a one year end level license from Detroit Diesel is 650$ user level, 2300$ for professional level allowing powertrain acess to "some" cab level controllers.
     
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