License expired, decreased options

Discussion in 'Questions From New Drivers' started by 4wheelJoshua, Aug 9, 2011.

  1. 4wheelJoshua

    4wheelJoshua Light Load Member

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    Duh, of course my options have decreased because my license expired. It expired a couple years ago when I went to the DMV to renew (it was 2 months from expiring on my birthday). The woman at the DMV printed my new license and gave it to me and all was ok. But she entered it in the computer as a duplicate replacement rather than a renewal. On my birthday it did expire and I had no idea. Nobody's fault really, just a mistake. But now it has drastically damaged my open opportunities with more than a couple carriers.

    The rant is the fact that felonies (no offense to you guys) and DUI's (same thing here) can work for these very companies that I don't qualify to work for now. Seems so backasswards that a DMV screw up can leave me unemployed or less qualified than having a DUI or felony on my record. I have never broken the law, yet I am the one shafted. That's a jacked up system.
     
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  3. 123456

    123456 Road Train Member

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    did you even try stevens ?
     
  4. 4wheelJoshua

    4wheelJoshua Light Load Member

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    Driver's Solutions tentatively has me slated for starting school on Monday. Will be contacting Steven's in the AM, almost done filling out their app as I type this. Do many drivers stay with Stevens after their first year? That I think is the biggest clue I can use, judge a carrier by who stays longer than a year. That's sort of how I have been looking around.

    Honestly just needed to vent. :)

    Numbers can I ask who you drive for, just out of curiosity? Was your first year rough?
     
  5. 123456

    123456 Road Train Member

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    I am old, and only make a trip once in a while,

    but I do towing work also.

    Just a thought,

    before going thru all that application stuff, call and ask the company about that license suspension.

    It will save you alot of time.......
     
  6. Emulsified

    Emulsified Road Train Member

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    Stevens business model is a training carrier. This means they seek out qualified candidates to train as drivers, then expect them to move on. Some of us find a niche there and stay.
    I direct answer to your question, 98% of drivers leave Stevens by the end of the second year. If you speak with most of these drivers, they will tell you Stevens trained them well and they hold no grudges. But they will make more money elsewhere, be home more often, decide they want to pull a skateboard or tanker...the reasons are varied.
    If you drive for Stevens two years, you can almost pick your carrier after that. There are very few carriers out there that won't jump at the chance to hire a two year Stevens driver.
    You can make decent OTR money if you find your niche there. But if you want to be home every weekend, or every 2-3 weeks, if you don't like running the full 48, if you don't like reefers or structure, then Stevens is not the place for you.
    They are a safety oriented, by the book, training company that has turned out thousands of successful drivers over the years, and proud of it.
    I am seeing a change in that there is now more of an effort to retain the best of the drivers that come thru and keep them in the 'permanent' fleet.
     
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  7. 4wheelJoshua

    4wheelJoshua Light Load Member

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    Wow that was a great post man! Thank you for the info and guidance.
     
  8. Allow Me.

    Allow Me. Trucker Forum STAFF Staff Member

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    When you got your license from the DMV, didn't it say expires on "such and such a year" ?
     
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  9. 4wheelJoshua

    4wheelJoshua Light Load Member

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    Yes the hard copy of the license itself was not set to expire till 2012. It only expired in the computer. The judge looked long and hard at the license I handed him, he was very confused how that could have happened.

    My abstract shows it expired 2 months after I went to renew it. Then 90 days after that expiration it was "suspended due to revocation", then again 6 months later "suspended for non-compliance" (because I didn't fix it - not knowing anything was even messed up). When in court I even had the receipt showing I paid for renewal not a duplicate. Why would I need a duplicate of a license about to expire when I had it in my hand?? lol Gotta love the system. I guess if I wouldn't have moved they say they sent notification, but they don't allow their notices to be forwarded I was told.

    2 suspensions and I never broke the law.
     
  10. 4wheelJoshua

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    FFE, Millis, Watkins Shepard, Swift, Stevens, Central Refrigerated, Schneider, Crete, Prime, PAM and USA Truck have all said no because the suspension. Some of the gutter companies said they could in October after looking at my abstract.

    So frustrating they don't see the difference in a compliance suspension versus a suspension due to violations. It flippin' expired, it's not a DUI charge, not due to a felony, it wasn't suspended because of an accident or even a failure to appear. Yet if it were any of those issues I could get the job. The most irritating thing is the abstract clearly says the conviction was reversed by the court, right at the top! 2 points, 2 points is all that I even have on my record and I have been turned down by the worst of the worst, just makes me sick.
     
  11. NYROADIE

    NYROADIE Heavy Load Member

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    I think your going about this the wrong way.
    1st put the school on hold for awhile(you want the training as recent as possible when job hunting)
    2nd you need to take this to the DMV and thru the court if needed! Your whole problem is cause a screwup at the DMV and THEY need to fix it!
    I'm sure they will say "no I can't do that" you need to speak to there boss! keep going higher and higher, sooner or later someone will listen to you and look in the computer then with a few key strokes IT WILL BE GONE:biggrin_25514: . Thats what you need, don't just find a company that will over look it cause it will follow you for YEARS!
     
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