Lift Axles and Lift Axle Controls

1. 3, 5, 14. Done!

 

UZ, you've asked (multiple times btw) I've answered, Nate has answered. Go back and do just a minute amount of research in your own threads, the answers are there. I'm done repeating myself.
The troll comment was meant to be the slap in the face you took it as. When you ask a question, listen to the answer. If you're not going to listen, don't waste our time and ask it in the first place.
Nate & I are from western Canada, we have both gave you solid answers. Others have gave you solid answers & advise in this & other threads, here's a hint...pay attention to them!

 

Quoting the regulations does not answer the question. I even told you I was under 12'6" wide.

I was required to run with 2 escorts.

I was under 12'6" wide so that did not trigger the front escort. It was a 2 lane most of the trip. The length did trigger the need for the rear pilot. There was something else though that triggered the need for the lead pilot.

With this load I was running under DW21 conditions. This means that I had to centerline all 2 lane bridges after coming to a stop and not exceed 5 mph while crossing the bridge. Oh, and I was the only one allowed to be on the bridge while crossing. Even my pilot cars had to stop OFF the bridge and also stop traffic from entering the bridge while I was on it.

Dimensions are not the only thing that trigger the need for pilot cars. Oh and did you know that if you are running overweight in Montana you will need an assessment for truck and trailer if running over legal weights on axle groups?

This is just one state, you have 48 more plus Canada and their provinces. Not even going to mention about counties and municipalities as I don't deal with them enough to learn about them yet.

 

You were complaining about not getting the weights given to you. I gave you the weight of the machine and my empty weight. This is in the regulations. Are you going to sit around all week until you have it clear. I gave you one load and one state.

No need to mention bridges in Montana. Any where you go on a 2 lane you are going to cross a bridge whether it be 100 feet long or 10 feet long there is a bridge you are going to cross. By the way, I crossed 7 bridges on the 2 lanes and I only traveled 56 miles.

As for what time of year, you really can't tell from the photo. The weight restrictions are in the spring and the roads are marked. Didn't need to say anything about day of the week or anything else, the question was how many pilots are needed if any and all you did was quote the regulations.

You may have stated 2 without even knowing why. If you had done that with a load and hit a bridge over 5 mph and happened to be spotted by MCS the fine would have been huge.

This is all to show you that it is not as easy as you think it is going to be. Just like your thread about converting a highway truck to heavy haul. You can't sit around waiting, the load has to move. It was an exercise to see if you could find the answers you would need. You have to be quick. I only deal with a few states and still have to reference different documents to find my answers. I mostly deal with one state so I do know that one pretty well.

With that load I was good to go under what they call regular conditions with the exception of the jeep weights. That is what put me into DW21 conditions. I run with a 35k annual overweight permit in Montana. Even on loads where you are under the 130k registration, if you are over on an axle group you need an overweight permit.

For instance, with a John Deere 410 articulated dump truck I gross 126k with a 3 axle RGN. But because the bridge calculations only allow me 96k I need to have an overweight permit for the 30k I am short on bridge length even though the truck is registered for 130k.

Now that that has scrambled your brain, multiply that by 48 plus all the Canadian provinces.

 

Patience and a phone number to ask for help is what ai required on Monday when I hauled my first one completely on my own.

I can't talk to anyone in my company cuz I don't speak Spanish. It's hard but if y'all respect each other and the fact that we are all there to support our families, we mmay not communicate, but we all respect each other because we all have the same goals.

 

I shouldn't get involved here, but some might find this info useful. The first sentence "The lack of uniformity in lift axle regulations and practices among states and provinces hinders the efficiency of commercial vehicle operations" says it all. More to it than just where the controls are located (like axle load rating, self-steer, must be dual, etc).

This is an older study, but I found most info is correct- I contacted each DOT to verify before I accepted OW loads that routed there. I have a map I made that shows where I can & can't go with the steerable/single tire VLS with my control configuration.

Go to the "Full Report" pdf link (there is a chart starting p.64 that's easy to read):
http://www.wsdot.wa.gov/Research/Reports/300/342.1.htm