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  1. x1Heavy

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    IT is. But... the old lumper scam story is still active.

    FFE told me and wife that the freight in that trailer is perfect stacked as specifically requested by both STOP One and Stop two over to the east side of the Hunt's Point Compound.

    Delivering into stop one, paid the man 60 bucks to lump the stuff. He got it unloaded and gave me a #### and bull story about rearranging stop two to avoid lumper fees there. I told him to #### off.

    Pulled forward, closed a door told him, hop down or take a ride to stop two. He was most persistant. He finally hopped down in a threatening manner that day.

    I would run a few more hunts point loads into that place and met other people and all of them tried the same story, oh Im afraid to lump 10 pallets... I should cough up 100 dollars so that the lumper hero will save me, arrive in the stop three find that I will be charged another 100 to rearrange the freight to where it should already have been in the first place.

    You would think with a life time of experience going into that cesspool I will know better. And I should.

    Scams are thick as pickpockets up there and will always be... why? Cold cash is king, talk and aw shucks is cheap and has no value there in NYC.
     
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  3. Mike2633

    Mike2633 Road Train Member

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    Here I am back in the buckeye good to be home.
    In this latest edition of Ohio vs The World.
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  4. MACK E-6

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    Would that be the Mistake on the Lake?:p
     
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  5. Mike2633

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    How did you know! LOL!
     
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  6. Mike2633

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    Alright guys I'm back and it's time for the conclusion to this little 6 day trip, which by the way 6-7 days is plenty long enough to be living out of a suit case. I'm happy to be home a little tired right, now, but I need to go out and get some stuff done, need gas for my car and what not, but anyhow wasn't bad.

    Yesterday I was with a guy on a route that wasn't quite as far away from the warehouse as the other routes, however he was loaded pretty good, well there palatalized loading cubes the trucks out way quicker then floor load, but at any rate,though it was a good trip.

    The warehouse in Maryland is in a growing new market, but there man power down there needs a lot of help, most of the drivers are new and I don't mean new to the company I mean new to trucking. The guy I was with yesterday had only had his CDL for 4 weeks and he was really really trying hard, and it's just going to take time and working for GFS or US or Sysco is a very very very difficult job to do when you are fresh out of school, which is why companies like McLane and MBM and PFG don't hire out of school not really there not interested in teaching people how to drive.

    In all honesty GFS in some divisions used to train people to get there CDL's however they have stopped a lot of that they at least want people to have there license, experience they will work around, because they figure some drivers from other places have bad habits and being an OTR driver is a lot different then being a street level driver. So they needed help out in Maryland, because they needed people with some experience to kind of just train the new and show them some tips and stuff. I mean the guy I was with yesterday was pretty much receptive to everything and he was trying really hard, but he was also in his early 40's which it's one thing if you stared in your 20's, and 40-41 isn't to old, but well 40 is old if your starting a new career like this brand new.

    We have a guy at my yard who started and he's in his mid 40s and he kicks butt, but he wasn't new to trucking he had 14 years of trucking experience under his belt and it wasn't OTR for Schneider either it was more city and stuff so he was used to shorter trailers and city type stuff. It would be like if an LTL city driver came over the driving wouldn't be a big deal that would be 1-2-3.

    Your brand new to trucking and the stress of learning how to drive, learning how to back which and I'll say this I'm not Joe-1 shot backer I don't even think I am that good, but we were at a stop and he was trying to shore horn the truck in and it was kind of a tricky maneuver for a new guy it was hard, poor guy his problem was he wasn't setting up right. Eventually I said "I'll get it." I didn't get it in one shot and the way the lot was set up one shot would have been kind of hard, however I knew it could be done and I got it.

    He said to me "Man I have to learn how to maneuver the truck like you and I'll be alright." I said to him "You probably get sick of hearing this, but it just takes time."

    "That back in over there it was mostly set up that's what was going to get it, 90% of the maneuver is in the set up."

    There is a high school here that I still have trouble with and I know it can be done, but usually the few times I've gone there I've lost my nerve and just dropped the ramp and forgot about hitting there dock (It's a bad dock set up anyhow really bad design) anyhow the two guys who do it though can do it however they had to be taught there's a trick to it and it's one of those stops where even an experienced driver might take some time or two it happens.

    Anyhow so I was trying to pass along some of my little success tidbits to the guys I worked with. The kid I worked with on Monday I don't think he cared a lick about what I had to say.

    The guy on Friday though was older like I said early 40's much much more receptive which just depends on the person. He seemed to be way more interested in what people had to say. You know the hard thing is you have a yard with 22 trucks and 19 out of the 22 drivers are brand new CDL holders, and there's only 2 training bosses how do you train them all? You don't not really you kind of pair them up the best you can, call for back up from other area's of the company guys come in from out of state try to pass along the knowledge that they have and let them go and figure some will stay and some will go and that will be that.

    Running a food company when you open up a new warehouse somewhere if your in an area where there are a lot of other warehouse and trucking companies and such then it's hard to find warehouse people and truck drivers, especially if you have like a Wal-Mart warehouse or Rite Aid or Bob's Discount Furniture or Zenith truck lines where there isn't as much touch freight, well Rite Aid is touch, but it's all plastic totes and lift gates or roller ramps and it's not quite the same thing you're not running up and down a ramp so what happens is the experienced drivers all go to the places where they don't have to run up and down a ramp and that leaves GFS to have to hunt around the system for help or go to recruit from truck driving schools.

    A big headache with owning a food company is staffing the warehouse and transportation department it's very difficult to do and you have to be competitive with wages and your in a commodities business and it can be difficult, especially because it cost a lot of money to hire people and then they get up set or frustrated and quit and you keep spinning that hamster wheel for a long long time and it's just slowly though you get people who stick around, but end up going through many many people to get there sometimes.
     
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  7. x1Heavy

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    This, Ladies and Gentlemen is Maryland on a Monday Morning when the music, bull and party favors are stopped.

    Baltimore is it's own. The world made us. Does that make sense? However...Im glad I got when the get getting was good. That year to get out and stay out. If all the things with OTR Trucking, Baltimore's got it. Divide that by 1000 Cities of a million or more you got America.

    I can ask Earl to get Noah, Nick and James to fetch foreman chuckie and we'll get this beer loaded into the trailer today.

    If you wanted to define today, that depends where you currently are in the Baltimore work week. That means there is a potential for pallets to sit today because the tuesday budgeted recharge for forklift batteries are out until Morning.

    Anyone comes up with a bright idea to build pallets is labeled a Stallion and may find him self tied to a post. Not all day but long enough to iron in the message.
     
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  8. Mike2633

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    Around the GFS warehouse in Aberdeen there was a ton of competition Bozel Truck Lines, Uncle Bob's Furniture, MBM, I think I saw a McLane truck, Cowan, Ruan was running some dedicated account out of some grocery store warehouse and then Rite Aid has a massive warehouse there. Then in Delaware not far away Performance Food Group was there has a warehouse. Also Ryder and Pensky and like I said GFS, Medline and Zienith Freight Systems all had places around the warehouse and all you saw were NOW HIRING CLASS A CDL DRIVERS now most of them were NOW HIRING EXPERIENCED CLASS A CDL DRIVERS, but still.

    Rite Aid had signs posted NOW HIRING CLASS A CDL DRIVERS, PHONE OPERATORS and ADMINISTRATORS and WAREHOUSE MATERIAL HANDLERS and DIESEL MECHANICS the competition for CDL A drivers around there was pretty brutal and even CDL B drivers lots of fuel oil companies with straight truck tankers lots of those and dump trucks too, so even a decent CDL B driver who can shift good and stuff like that could run dump trucks and do fuel oil and stuff so there was that too. Actually this GFS warehouse had 4 straight trucks that they used for over flow like I said Rite Aid I hate to keep mentioning them, but they were rolling constantly from there distribution center, saw there trucks all over.
     
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  9. x1Heavy

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    I hate that the accident rates are so high.

    I thought half of those places have gone out of business. That's like being told your dear granny has kicked the bucket 20 years ago only to find her being carted to a higher care from a warehouse she was kept in.... It's upsetting these places are running on good wil and cash money not found else where.

    There is not that much else left There s the air and sea and rail freight and there is the trucking freightl

    If you had rounded up several busloads of qualifed and skilled people for every department of these companies you speak of... and transplated them in while displacing residents who are not doing so well... maybe it will save the companies for the Children some day.
     
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  10. Sho Nuff

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    Whenever physical labor is involved, usually there's a high turnover rate. I'm sure you know this, but not everybody is cut out to do foodservice, P&D, or 3rd party logistics.

    Mclane use to have a training program. I don't know if it still exists, but I do know they promote from within. Warehouse workers can move up to being a driver and make about $500 a day, depending on route. I thought about working for them a couple years ago, but being oncall and the long hours made me change my mind. It's sortta been there, done that, don't wanna do it again thing. Plus I heard ever since Warren Buffet bought out Mclane years ago, things have been going down hill. But they do make ridiculous money though. $120k or more is not unheard of over their.
     
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    McLane on the grocery end is all teams in sleeper cabs and then the food service end they run day cabs most of the time and have some, *some 33' trailers, but there like any chain operation mostly 48' loaded to the gills. McLane though I think might *might be floor loaded not totally sure could be wrong. I think there grocery division in the sleeper cabs is floor loaded, not sure about the food division @truck_guy would know. I know I've seen McLane at the Sheffield Village, Ohio Pizza Hut with a stack of cheese or cheese product as high as the building. I like the stuffed crust pizza at Pizza Hut by the way have to get me one of those. That was an engineering marvel back when the corporate chefs and inventors invented it at the now defunct and gone and mostly forgotten Pepsi Food Service...ahh the 1990s what a magical time.
     
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