Load Securement Question

Discussion in 'Flatbed Trucking Forum' started by HauntedSchizo19, Feb 21, 2014.

  1. HauntedSchizo19

    HauntedSchizo19 Medium Load Member

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    Hello all,

    I am currently studying for my CDL permit test, along with the endorsement tests. I live in NY and as you may well know, they require what is referred to as the Metal Coil Endorsement test. While studying, I came across a question that stumped me a bit:

    What is the working load limit of a binder with a handle marked "3/8-G7, 7/16-G43?"

    I then referred to this handy Working Load Limit (WLL) Table that was provided... 3/8-G7 = 6,600 lbs; 7/16-G43 = 7,200 lbs. Now: are those two numeric values in pounds the answers, or do you have to do something else? I do like how they ask you questions that aren't covered in the book and you have to figure them out on your own. I'm not opposed to doing such, I just wanna make sure I'm approaching it right.

    I do have a few other questions and will probably have a few other questions as well.

    Thanks in advance to any and all who answer!
     
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  3. e40water12

    e40water12 Bobtail Member

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    Usually the work load is what you go by. Basically if steel coils are heavier. You add more chain & binders to handle that weight for safe transport. That is how i do all my flat deck securement.
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  4. TURKER

    TURKER Medium Load Member

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    Yes numeric values is the working load limit
     
  5. skateboardman

    skateboardman Road Train Member

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    hmmm, the feds made Alabama do away with theirs , that didn't affect ny?
     
  6. perufb

    perufb Light Load Member

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    No NY's is still the law. If you are a resident of NY and want to pull coils you have to have the endorsement.
     
  7. Aminal

    Aminal Heavy Load Member

    You did it right. They are looking to see if you can take the label or marking and reference a table and come up with the correct WLL, that's all - with that one.

    When I was running them the Feds did mess with NY and you had to have the coil endorsement only if it was an inTRAstate load (p/u and del within NY) but if it was going to cross the state line you didn't. They made them do away with that part. Plus they couldn't enforce the intrastate requirement if you were an inTERstate driver, with an out of state CDL (other states didn't even have that endorsement so there was no way to get one), running a single inTRAstate load as the result of a load that brought you in state and was setting you up to get back out or on a non-coil load. You couldn't run up there, spend two weeks running intrastate coil loads and then boogie back outta state. You could run a single coil load without the endorsement or multiple, but not consecutive loads. It was a whole State vs Fed thing, the Feds mostly won and NY kept the parts they could. It's a good endorsement to have if flatbedding and NY is your home state. Then you don't have to worry about it.
     
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  8. HauntedSchizo19

    HauntedSchizo19 Medium Load Member

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    I believe the Alabama one was for anyone hauling coils in and/or out of the state. NY's is only intrastate. Aminal's post actually goes into depth about it and explains it better than myself.
     
  9. HauntedSchizo19

    HauntedSchizo19 Medium Load Member

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    Thanks a lot! I appreciate it. I thought it was that easy, but thought I'd ask the question anyway. Also, thanks for explaining the Metal Coil Endorsement in NY; I thought it was likewise to what you said, but that was only based off of pure assumption!
     
  10. HauntedSchizo19

    HauntedSchizo19 Medium Load Member

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    I know I don't need to know this for my test, but I've heard terms like the coil "suicide" and the coil "shotgun." I know these are referring to positions, but I was wondering if someone could take a few minutes and explain to me the lingo for the different positions of the coil (ie. what's eyes crosswise's term, what's eye's vertical's term, etc?)? Please, and thank you!
     
  11. Bayle

    Bayle Road Train Member

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    Eyes crosswise, is suicide, meaning that if the coil broke loose in a hard brake or crash, it could roll and kill you, vertical, is eye to the sky, self explanatory. Shotgun, is coil loaded eye lengthwise, or front to back, so then it would roll off the side. Sometimes referred to as homocide.
     
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