Load that can't be done legally

Discussion in 'Questions From New Drivers' started by Slargtarg, Feb 18, 2017.

  1. Kenworth 4life

    Kenworth 4life Medium Load Member

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    Yup but proving it is another thing, unless you record the conversation with the dispatchers. And most driver's won't open that can of worms due to the backlash they may receive, fired,Crappy loads, no loads, ect. Most dispatchers are pretty good but sometimes you'll get one that will cut your b@!!$ off to get that load shipped,
     
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  3. Toomanybikes

    Toomanybikes Road Train Member

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    No, holding the shippers, carriers, and brokers liable is not dumb; thats exactly how the DOT looks at it. Thats how every court and ambulance chasing lawyers see it too.

    The thing always is, everybody wants to be the boss but no one wants to take responsibility of being the boss. Everybody likes to tell the driver when to jump and how high, but when it comes down to the simple responsibility and a little math regarding the trucking industry, they all like to play dumb.

    All these planners, dispatchers, CSRs, brokers, and all the representatives at the shippers and consignees should all be able to do the same simple math to fix the OP's trip plan long before the situation confronted a driver. The problem is no harder then any 5th grade math student tackles every day. They didn't do it. They were either too lazy or stupid to handle the situation. That makes them incompetent and undeserving of the position they are in. There should be no more sympathy for these malcontents, then a truck driver that takes out a row of parked trucks at the peelot.
     
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  4. TankerP

    TankerP Road Train Member

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    "Shippers, receiver, and brokers should be held responsible.." translation: let's put more regulation into this industry. The more regulations these guys have to follow the more they have power over the drivers. Does that sound good to everyone here?
    I personally point the finger at the drivers who are running illegal, but then that would mean individual responsibility which is hard to comprehend with most "professional" drivers.
     
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  5. RedRover

    RedRover Road Train Member

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    The empty call asks only what you have on your 11, as does the loaded call. Doesn't ask what you'll have on your 14. I've had a few load offers where I had enough drive time but not enough on my 14 to pick up the load. Usually they will say just go ahead and pick it up asap.
     
  6. Toomanybikes

    Toomanybikes Road Train Member

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    No more regulation. Don't inject politics where it don't belong. It has always been that way.

    Guidance for § 395.8: Driver's record of duty status

    Question 21: What is the carrier’s liability when its drivers falsify records of duty status?

    Guidance: A carrier is liable both for the actions of its drivers in submitting false documents and for its own actions in accepting false documents. Motor carriers have a duty to require drivers to observe the Federal Motor Carrier Safety Regulations (FMCSRs).
     
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  7. Moosetek13

    Moosetek13 Road Train Member

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    It isn't the macros that matter. They can see what the QC reports.
    And the QC knows how much of your 70, 14 and 8 are left at any given time.

    It's just like going in to the shop, and you have to bring your mileage in.
    They can see exactly what it is by looking at their screen, but they make me tell them anyway.
    How do I know?
    I went in with an approximate mileage once, instead of the QC reading. He said no, that isn't right, and made me go back out to get the exact mileage from the QC. He looked at the screen and said OK.

    I've had times when my DM would tell me that I had, for example, 3 hours and 43 minutes left on my 14.

    They know because the QC is hooked directly into the system.
     
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  8. KMac

    KMac Road Train Member

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    I have no Idea what DC's you went to but I know there are a lot of street parking options in some locations in LA. Did you look into that at your 2nd delivery?

    Mira Loma for example, or El Monte, Riverside, plenty of street parking near the DC's. This would let you deliver first stop, drive to second and park outside the gate, check in and get unloaded at appt time.

    I know it's not always possible, but certainly an option you can look Into.
     
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  9. Lepton1

    Lepton1 Road Train Member

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    @Moosetek13 is right. The planners and DM's have a real time view of your hours. For grins and giggles next time you are in a terminal ask a planner to observe how they assign loads. When I did that they pull up Google Satellite View with icons showing available trucks near the shipper. They can click on a truck icon to see what kind of driver, hours available, hours coming back, etc.

    It's not foolproof. Planners can still make a mistake.
     
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  10. TankerP

    TankerP Road Train Member

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    Thanks. Where does it say about shippers and receivers since everyone here seems to want to blame them too?
    By the way, are you happy with the fact that carriers are charged with having to baby sit you?
     
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  11. TankerP

    TankerP Road Train Member

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    When You start talking about what others should and should not do then you are delving into bureaucracy and politics.

    "They should be made responsible for..." How do you plan to make somebody do something without implementing rules and laws and punishments?
     
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