Local/OTR logging question…

Discussion in 'Experienced Truckers' Advice' started by ncmickey, Feb 27, 2025.

  1. ncmickey

    ncmickey Road Train Member

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    I have transitioned from a OTR regional position to a local position. For the last 2 months I have been home every night. A situation popped up that I was unsure how to log. I’ve gotten a few differing answers so I’ll ask here.
    I worked local this week on Sun, mon and tues. this week. On Tues, Due to a sick driver they asked If I could make a run from Raleigh down to Atlanta. I went down Wednesday and returned today. I used my elog to log the trip. Because it wasn’t a strictly local, how do you log the local time for the previous 8 days… or since I was local does it matter? I have been using my sleeper truck to do the local stuff till they get me a day cab. Just not sure how that all works. I know I can ask the safety guy… but no one likes him…;-). He told me to unplug the elog from the truck when local and plug back in when I need to log. Reading info online gets confusing?!! I’ve learned that there are 20 different answers to every question….
    So basically, how do you log a local/OTR mixed week?
    None of the few local guys log anything. One guy said he just shows his timesheet, which has all our stops daily on it if he gets stopped. Is there a requirement to log something when local? I hate not having my ducks in a row and I don’t want to find out I’m doing something wrong from an inspector…:)
     
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  3. BeHereNow97

    BeHereNow97 Heavy Load Member

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    When I was doing LTL, they offered P&D (local) drivers an opportunity to do a linehaul run on Saturdays for extra money if we wanted to (freight was booming at the time). There were also guys who had short linehaul runs (think it was 420 miles or less) who were forced to work P&D and do local pickups for the last few hours of their shifts as well.

    Whether we were doing only local work, only linehaul work, or a mixture of local and linehaul work (like what you just described) we all just logged our Elogs like normal no matter what, although obviously we never logged sleeper because none of us were ever in sleeper trucks.

    I'm not sure what I'm missing here, why you wouldn't you just log your Elogs like normal/like you're supposed to no matter what?
     
  4. tscottme

    tscottme Road Train Member

    Lived this for 18 years. Before you start your Regional/OTR trip you need to enter your previous 7 days of work hours into the ELD or on paper logs. For each local work day all you need to note is start & stop times/location & total work hours. Log the time at work as On-Duty, Not Driving (ODND). Deduct from your ODND (work + drive) time your time spent off-duty or on break.

    For example, clock in 0600 & work/drive until 1200. Take 60 minutes for lunch (or whatever you take). Work/drive until 1630. For that day you can have a log page showing 9.5 hrs ODND, without showing how much time was driving & how much working. Repeat for each local work day. Make sure the Recap log shows at least 100% of your work/driving time for that day. You do not want to show even 1 minute less work/drive time than official records for that work day. If you recap log shows a few minutes more work/drive time than local records it's OK as long as you don't go over your 60 hours in 7 days or 70 hours in 8 days HOS max. The company decides which one, 60 or 70 you log not you.

    So for previous 7 days before your occasional long trip you need a "recap log page" or ELD record, like above or a "log page" showing a day off.

    MAKE SURE YOU GET A 34 HOUR RESET OR 10 HOUR OFF-DUTY BREAK BEFORE RESUMING LOCAL WORK. If the local & long trip will put you close to your 60/7 HOS or 70/8 HOS limit be aware of busting that limit when you restart your local work afterwards.
     
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  5. abyliks

    abyliks Road Train Member

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    You only need an eld if you haul outside of 150 air miles more then 8 days in a 30 day period, I always just did the pre trip book then draw a log for the day outside the 150
     
  6. wis bang

    wis bang Road Train Member

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    Anyone working 'local' under the 100 air mile exemption is not required to 'log' their day; however, the carrier does need to monitor the daily 'time sheets' for HOS compliance along with IRP and IFTA documentation provided by the daily time records for every 'local' day.

    FCMSA guidance shows that when operating outside the Air-Mile exemption radius the driver must prepare a log but doesn't need to show the prior 7 days and no ELD is required UNLESS you operate outside the 'Air-Mile' exemption more than 7 times in 29 days BUT you do need a paper log for those occasional non-local days.

    When we were running paper and using a scanner; the 100 Air-Mile guys went from off duty to On Duty Not Driving and recorded the time until they went off duty and wrote "TIME RECORD" on the graph.

    We did the same method once the ELD's came onboard so this is an option for OP but not required.

    OP do you understand the exemption requirements?
     
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  7. abyliks

    abyliks Road Train Member

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    it is now 150 air miles and 14 hours local, was changed from 100/12 with the last HOS change
     
  8. OldeSkool

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    We’re working on them to change it to a 2,500 air mile radius
     
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  9. Powder Joints

    Powder Joints Subjective Prognosticator

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    Log it like you drive and work it. Does not matter if its local or not.
     
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  10. wis bang

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    but not to be confused with the 150 Air-Mile exemption for Non-CDL that it was made to match which is why I didn't mention the hours on duty...
     
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  11. Lonesome

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    That's what I've been doing. I run local, or under 150 miles, 99% of the time. But about twice a month, I take a long trip, such as New York on Monday. I run the paper log for that trip, and others. Haven't been stopped.....yet.
     
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