The 'compensation' is the tax deduction you can claim for the value of the goods, not for your labor in delivering them. You're also allowed to claim mileage if you use your car for charitable purposes, such as driving rescue animals to veterinarian appointments, but this is for the cost of operating your vehicle such as gasoline and wear and tear on your vehicle, not for your time.
If they give you a few bucks in exchange, it's not a favor. It's compensated work. If you help them out just because you're a nice person, that's fine.
That's only if you intend to use the split sleeper berth provision to extend your 14. You can spend the entire 10 hours off duty in the crapper, or anywhere else you want.
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The OP asked about logging time at a part-time job. The regs are clear about that situation. Why is it so important to change the situation and imagine cases on the fringe when that's not what was asked? If everybody speeds does it make speeding not illegal and remove speeding tickets?
This is not a trolley problem. The regs don't require the OP or me or you to be perfect or go directly to jail. Why not read the reg instead of imaging the end of the world? -
Who is charging their friends or family for a ride to the airport?
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You missed the point
IF you are donating your time or items to charity, you are getting something in return for it, yes, it's a tax deduction at the end of the year, technically, that's compensation.
So, if you help your neighbor out on the weekend, and they give you a few bucks, are you reporting on your log those compensated hours worked? I spent 6 hours today helping my nephew move, he paid for a tank of gas in my pickup and the use of my trailer. I guess tomorrow I'll update my ELD to show that I worked 6.5 hours today.
No, you can't, per the regs, there must be 8 hrs of uninterrupted sleep time. This has been discussed many times -
Nobody said they were, you take your neighbor to the airport as favor and they leave $10 on the seat to cover gas, you've now been compensated for your time, make sure you report it on your log, doesn't matter if you asked for the money or they voluntarily gave it to you. I guess the way around that would be, when you get home, you put the money in an envelope and tape it to their door, with a note saying: "you gave me this money for taking you to the airport, legally that's compensation, and I have to report it on my ELD that I worked for compensation, it kinda screws me up, by returning the money to you, I don't have to report the time spent."
BTW, I help my elderly father three nights a week after work, he doesn't have to compensate me, he's my father, but the state of Colorado requires him to report this help, if he doesn't pay me for the it, the state will, as I'm picking up where his normal care giver has left for the day. Should I also report that money? Your kid mows the lawn for a couple of neighbors, you haul him and the mower to those yards, technically you are working, even though you probably aren't taking money for it, your kid is, a good lawyer, going back to your original example, could make the case against you. -
You are determined to pick and choose from various govt agencies to make this situation hopelessly complicated. I guess that's one way to waste time on the internet. A part-time job and a CDL with HOS regulations are not as complicated for 99% of drivers as you seem to presume is common. If a CDL driver fails to report a part-time job on his HOS and he is involved in a prosecution or lawsuit where his HOS are pertinent, it won't be hard for the judge/jury to see that as falsification of logs.. If you want to stay up night worrying over some hypothetical lawnmowing or airport ride, go ahead. CDL drivers signed up for complying with the FMCSA regs and the FMCSA provides guidance on what some of those regs mean. Working for compensation requires logging of that time in the HOS. Being compensated after a favor does not necessarily trigger the HOS logging requirement. It may muddy the water for a labor lawyer and a labor union ever paranoid that one of their members may once in the history of the world expend effort and not first have a written 3,000 page contract, 5 safety supervisors, catered lunch prepared by a union chef and eaten while a unionized ambulance crew stands by in case of choking during the eating of said lunch is one worry to have, so have it. Unions have a particular reputation that they have earned. Overcompliance is a choice, your choice.
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