log book on a class c licence?

10 hours isnt suggestible its the law LOL. Thats like telling the cop I couldnt drive 55 in a 55 I could only drive 80 MPH. Youre getting a ticket.

I dont know what to tell you about not having a CDL. Youre opening yourself up to a whole bunch of tickets

If you dont have a CDL then you dont have a medical card.
Im guessing your boss doesnt carry yearly inspections certificates on the truck or trailer.
No log book is gonna get your a couple more tickets as well

Yes, definitely carry a log book.

Make sure you fill out what you were doing for 7 days prior. If your leaving Monday morning and you were off all weekend. Show Saturday and Sunday at Home Off Duty. If you were working Mon - Fri just show those days ON DUTY. You are required to show those previous 7 days by law.

Never show driving more than 11 hours. And always show 10 hours or more OFF DUTY after youre done driving for the day. Show a PTI pre trip inspection everyday as well. Show at least 15 minutes every time you fuel, and show your location (city state) where you fueled.

You can go to youtube and watch videos all day long on how to do logbooks.

Probably the worst thing of all. You get to pay for all those tickets yourself (if you get caught), and they could easily run into a few months wages depending on the severity and the attitude of the dot cop. I would certainly avoid all weigh stations and points of entry lol.

 

That must be a state thing. Federal regs say nothing about crossing state lines...only a 100 air mile radius. Cop can write the ticket if he wants, but it should be thrown out in court.

http://www.fmcsa.dot.gov/rules-regulations/administration/fmcsr/fmcsrruletext.aspx?reg=395.1

Again, no mention of state lines playing any role in whether or not a driver is eligible to claim the 100 air mile exemption.

http://www.fmcsa.dot.gov/rules-regu...fmcsr/fmcsrruletext.aspx?reg=395.1&guidence=Y

 

He does not have to write "At Home" or anything other than the city and state where he goes off duty then on duty .
He does not require a CDL for a truck with a GVWR of 16,000 lbs. The requirement for a CDL is based on the GVWR of the truck. The CDL * is required if a truck over 26,000 lbs. GVWR pulls a trailer with a GVWR over 10,000. Lbs. But not if a non CDL truck pulls a trailer over 10,000 lbs.
Don't try to tell me a 1 ton dually or Dodge 4500 pulling a trailer with a GVWR. Of 12,000 lbs. requires a CDL. If you say it does show the regulation.

 

Questions:

1. Does your "boss" have an MC or DOT number?

2. Will your trip require overnight before or during the return?

When running commercial freight, an MC/DOT registration is required (for the business). don't use Line 2 on your log (if you use a log) your dually doesn't have a "qualifying" sleeper berth so you can't be in the sleeper.

 

Who needs to fill out a log?
The requirements for logging are contained in the hours of service regulations. Any driver who operates a commercial motor vehicle in interstate commerce is subject to the hours of service regulations. A commercial motor vehicle, for this purpose, is defined as a vehicle that:

• has a gross vehicle weight rating, gross combination weight rating, gross vehicle weight, or gross combination weight of 10,001 pounds or more;
• is designed to transport more than 8 passengers (including the driver) for compensation;
• is designed to transport more than 15 passengers (including the driver) and is not used to transport passengers for compensation; or
• is transporting hazardous materials in a quantity requiring the vehicle to be placarded.

Within the hours of service regulations are logging exemptions for drivers that meet the criteria of either the 100 air-mile radius exemption or the non-CDL short-haul exemption (§ 395.1(e)). For drivers who come under one of these exemptions, a time record may be filled out in lieu of a log.
Drivers operating in intrastate commerce should check with their state about what the requirements and exemptions are for logging.

There are two factors here...the weight of the vehicle and the fact that it is commercial.

 

http://www.fmcsa.dot.gov/rules-regulations/topics/hos/index.htm

Any one of the above descriptions is a qualifier as a CMV.

 

There you go...highlighted and enlarged...will be the bottom line!

 

383.23Commercial driver's license

(a) General rule.(1) No person shall operate a commercial motor vehicle unless such person has taken and passed written and driving tests for a CLP or CDL that meet the Federal standards contained in subparts F, G, and H of this part for the commercial motor vehicle that person operates or expects to operate. (2) Except as provided in paragraph (b) of this section, no person may legally operate a CMV unless such person possesses a CDL which meets the standards contained in subpart J of this part, issued by his/her State or jurisdiction of domicile. (b) Exception. (1) If a CMV operator is not domiciled in a foreign jurisdiction that the Administrator has determined tests drivers and issues CDLs in accordance with, or under standards similar to, the standards contained in subparts F, G, and H of this part,1 the person may obtain a Non-domiciled CLP or Non-domiciled CDL from a State that does comply with the testing and licensing standards contained in such subparts F, G, and H of this part, so long as that person meets the requirements of §383.71(f).

 

The key word here is "COMMERCIAL". I do believe the person who started this thread will be driving for a company who is hauling commercially and for hire.

Which is what I failed to establish in my posts about 10,001 pounds. My mistake.
Point is that he will be required to have a CDL, medical card and fill out a log if he drives outside the 100 mile radius.
Furthermore as was stated earlier, he can NOT use the "sleeper birth" line on his log. I have a friend who was stopped pulling a MONTANA 3 axle travel trailer with a dually for hire. The cop ticketed him for not having receipts for the motel in which he stayed because he didi not have a sleeper. Evidently, you can't legally sleep in the dually on your 10 hour break.

It makes sense to me as the line haul guys who drive day cabs are put up in motels for their 10 hours.

Regulations, regulations, regulations....

 

You guys have fun. I'm going to get on the bike and go to Loose Wheels and see what kind of crap I can stir.

See ya