log book on a class c licence?

He does NOT need a CDL for a class 4 truck. He CAN sleep in his truck if he logs off duty instead of sleeper .

 

http://www.fmcsa.dot.gov/rules-regu...fmcsr/fmcsrruletext.aspx?reg=395.2&guidence=Y

If you are "off duty" it doesn't matter WHERE you are off duty. You could sit in the diner for 10 hours sipping coffee and watching the news, it is still 10 hours off duty. A blanket on a park bench for 10 hours is also 10 hours off duty. You do not need to prove where you took your off duty time, and if you don't have a receipt there isn't much they can do because (as the interpretation of the regulations state) the ONLY resting facility regulated by the FMCSA is the sleeper berth.

 

Ok Rick. You said show the reg and she did. I has NOTHING to do with the class of the truck! It has ALL to do with the word COMMERCIAL! Why do you think all these hot-shotters and RV transporters are now being pulled into the scales?

Evidently, you know more than FMCSA does so have it your way. I'm done!

 

Just curious d5dozer,,,, Do you currently have a passenger endorsement "P" or a Hazmat "H" on your Class "C" lic.?

If not you will "upon renewal" either have to add one of those endorsements or get a class B or A at that time, or give up your CDL and get a regular lic.

Class "C" CDL's are no longer being issued w/o passenger or hazmat endorsements. I know it's a little off topic for the thread but come renewal time don't get blindsided by this and be temp. out of service until you can get your lic. in order.

That said..
Log Book "Yes"
Medical Card "Yes"
(Better check and be sure your Class "C" is a commercial lic.!! some states issue a "non-commercial" class C lic. which would not require a medical card but also would not allow you to operate legally in commerce)

(Quote) "I guess ill need to remember where i drove for the past 7 days, although it was all within 100 miles of the yard. any more info or advice is very helpfull since this will be my first long haul.)

If your prior 7 did not require a log "100 mile exception" then don't log it. Your time clock records from your place of employment will suffice and you do not need to have those in the truck. More is not always better and if you dummy up a log for the prior 7 days it will have to be correct and allow you to be in compliance wherever the DPS or DOT finds you on day 8. Keep it simple. I was looking for the FMCSA link to the forms that allow you to record your hours of work for the previous 7 days and have your boss etc. and yourself sign it and away you go.

 

Not the way I'm reading things....

http://www.fmcsa.dot.gov/rules-regu...letext.aspx?reg=383.91&guidence=y&keyword=cdl

As long as he is licensed by his home state in a manner which allows him to operate the vehicle he's driving, he's good in ALL states. If his home state does not issue CDL's for vehicles and combinations below 26,001, then his regular class C drivers license should be good across state lines and wherever he needs to go.

 

One last question then I'm going to get out of this. What part of you can NOT drive a vehicle COMMERCIALLY FOR HIRE that weighs more than 10,001 pounds without a CDL do you not understand? Once again, state rules and regs and the class of vehicle does NOT enter into the picture. If you are going to drive a vehicle or combination of vehicles (pick-up truck and trailer) which has a GVWR of 10,001 or more and you are driving it for hire (commercially) you MUST have a CDL, medical card and you MUST fill out a log book. PERIOD! If he drives the vehicle for distances of less than 100 miles he does not have to log but he must carry paperwork from the company which proves he is under the 100 mile rule to be exempted.

Go read the rules....it's all there if you know how to read. The simple word "COMMERCIAL" trumps all of the other BS. You do what you like. I will be here waiting for hime to start ######## that he got popped at the scales because he didn't have all the propper stuff to be driving.

I'm done now.

 

From FMCSA Website

Class C -- Any single vehicle, or combination of vehicles, that does not meet the definition of Class A or Class B, but is either designed to transport 16 or more passengers, including the driver, or is transporting material that has been designated as hazardous under 49 U.S.C. 5103 and is required to be placarded under subpart F of 49 CFR Part 172 or is transporting any quantity of a material listed as a select agent or toxin in 42 CFR Part 73.



From FMCSA website

Who Must Comply HOS Final Rule Most drivers must follow the HOS Regulations if they drive a commercial motor vehicle, or CMV.

In general, a CMV is a vehicle that is used as part of a business and is involved in interstate commerce and fits any of these descriptions: ​

• Weighs 10,001 pounds or more
• Has a gross vehicle weight rating or gross combination weight rating of 10,001 pounds or more
• Is designed or used to transport 16 or more passengers (including the driver) not for compensation
• Is designed or used to transport 9 or more passengers (including the driver) for compensation
• A vehicle that is involved in Interstate or intrastate commerce and is transporting hazardous materials in a quantity requiring placards is also considered a CMV

 

Thank you!

 

You'd be suprised at how many times I have been told that a trailer over 10,000 gvw required a class A and this was by the police.
I will have to check Al. law since I live here. But about the only hotshot trailer I could see you pulling without a clas A would be a 14,000 pound one.
Two 7,000 pound axles. Truck going to weigh 8,000 and trailer at least 6500
So you may get 10-12,000 on. Think thats what Melvin told me he caould haul before retiring.