log book on a class c licence?

http://www.fmcsa.dot.gov/rules-regu...letext.aspx?reg=383.91&guidence=y&keyword=cdl

In other words, if there is no hazmat, and you don't need a passenger endorsement, then if the vehicle/combination does not meet the standards for a class A or class B CMV, then NO CDL IS NECESSARY!


Perhaps YOU should learn to read.

 

Interestingly enough in AZ. No CDL is required for any combination of veh's. less than 26,000 lbs (unless it carries 16 + passengers or carries Hazmat in amounts that require placards)

Copied and pasted the following from the AZdot Website.

Classes of Licenses
CDL is divided into three classes:

Class A -Required to operate a combination vehicle (truck and trailer) if the GVWR of the trailer is 10,001 pounds or more, and when added to the GVWR of the power unit (truck), the gross combined weight rating (GCWR) is 26,001 or more pounds.

Class B -Required to operate any vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 pounds or more. A trailer may be towed if the GVWR of the trailer is 10,000 pounds or less.

Class C -Required to operate any vehicle with a GVWR of 26,000 pounds or less, if the vehicle is required to be placarded to transport hazardous materials or transports 16 or more passengers, including the driver.

Must also have a P-passenger or H- hazardous materials endorsement, (HME) to obtain a Class C.

See Section 1 of the CDL Manual for more information on deciding what class of CDL you may need.

 

Except for that pesky FMCSA guideline that considers any veh. or combination that exceeds 10,000 lbs. and operates in commerce for hire is considered a CMV. for HOS purposes. http://www.fmcsa.dot.gov/rules-regulations/topics/hos/index.htm

So I can drive it with any drivers lic. but MUST keep a log book ???

Aren't Federal and State regulations a blast.

 

That is exactly what the regs state. If the vehicle combination exceeds 10,000 pounds, and you do not qualify for any of the exemptions (i.e. 100 air mile radius), then you must keep a RODS. However, you do not need a CDL to drive a vehicle combination less than 26,000 pounds....unless you are hauling haz-mat or passengers.

 

You continually give some of the worst advice I have ever seen on this board. Again and again and again.

 

But he's right most of the time.

 

Inter-State operation, "vehicle class" and "for hire" have nothing to do with it.

As has already been mentioned, what puts you under the FMCSA regs (log books, med cards, etc.) is:
- Gross COMBINED weight rating over 10,000#
- In COMMERCE ("for hire", and "not for hire". Anything in the furtherance of a business enterprise)

CDL kicks in over 26,000# COMBINED GVWR.

 

Prove me wrong . The license issue has been settled . Under 26,000 no hazmat or passengers no CDL required . It was posted that the class C license was acceptable when another driver on the vehicle in question was inspected .
Sleeping in a truck while logged off duty ? Read the provision regarding on duty time . http://www.fmcsa.dot.gov/rules-regulations/topics/hos/index.htm

 

Quoted from the OP of this thread

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Why would this guy have gotten a ticket if it wernt a commercial vehicle requiring a CDL license?

You're setting this guy up to fail big time. Bad BAD advice.

 

Not So, the 100 air mile exemption crosses state lines; Baltimore to NJ can easily be beyond 114.63 miles from Baltimore. We are in central NJ and our 100 air mile circle covers parts of 5 states and does not reach anywhere close to Baltimore.