log book on a class c licence?

LOL....one simple question.....headed for page 5!

ROFLMAO!!!

 

Can't read very well , can you ? He said the ticket was for no medical card . He wasn't ticketed for not having a CDL.

 

The question is whether or not a CDL is required, not whether or not he is in a "commercial vehicle situation", as there is such a thing as a non-CDL commercial driver. If that is the case then there is a 150 AMR rather than the 100 AMR from his terminal in which one may not be required to log. In the OP's case he mentioned 600 miles so not logging is not an option if his GVWR is 10,001 or more.

A class C is not an option of being correct for his vehicle unless it is placarded, carries more than 16 passengers or is a school bus and is 26000-. Since a Ram 450 is not going to be rated high enough to require a CDL (14-16,000 GVWR), he simply needs to get the GVWR of the truck and the GVWR of the trailer. If the Trailer is 10,001+ and the combined weight rating of the towing unit and trailer (GCWR) is 26,001+ then he needs a Class A, if not he needs no CDL. He would then be a non-CDL commercial driver.

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Don't know where you got all this from but some of it appears incorrect.

 

Only if the GCWR is over 26,001 or more. How it is tagged should not make a difference, the regs specifically use ratings. States can be screwy sometimes I guess.

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A class C CDL is appropriate only for a placarded Hazmat load or a passenger vehicle designed to transport16 or more passengers including the driver. In fact you cannot even get a class C without either a P or H endorsement or both.

Nope, if the combined rating (GCWR) is over 26000 (26001) with a trailer rated over 10, (10001)it's an A.

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It probably wasn't the state line that got him. What usually gets drivers is where they are going in relation to where they originated. For instance a normally 100 AMR driver leaving Baltimore en-route to Newark (Approx 180 driving miles) and crosses in to NJ and is stopped and claims he is a 100 AMR driver and does not have to start logging until he reaches the 100 AM will likely be cited and put OOS.

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Good, right on the head.

Bad slice d it! If the combination rating, towing unit GVWR plus trailer GCWR of at least 10,001 equals 26001 or more it's an A.

Well, I'll tell you that. If the rating on the 450 is 16000 and the rating on the trailer is 12,000 the combination rating (GCWR) is 28,000 and requires an A.

For that matter a Tonka toy truck with a 1 pound GVWR and a trailer rated at 26,000 = a Class A.

383.91 (a) 1 Any combination of vehicles with a gross combination weight rating (GCWR) of 11,794 kilograms or more (26,001 pounds or more) provided the GVWR of the vehicle(s) being towed is in excess of 4,536 kilograms (10,000 pounds).

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I have a question, I drive a 3/4 ton pickup rated at 10,000 GVWR and have the truck registered for 25,999 and do not carry over that. I had a Missouri DOT officer tell me I am not required to to run a log if not under load and am not being paid,so I don"t. My company tells me that I MUST run logs all the time. Who is right??

 

Lets bring back this Zombie 6 year old post back. They are both right, If the company wants to have you log that's their right, then you log. According to FMCSA you are NOT required to log, if you are not under load or being paid. If you are being paid than yes you must log according to FMCSA. That is why Mr and Mrs John Public doesn't need a CDL to drive a class A motor home pulling two trailers behind. They are not getting paid. If they had show horses or race cars and competed and won prizes then legally they would need CDL and to log.