Log book question - loggin "Local"

I am not clear on what you are saying so let me try to give an example and see if it's clear to you or not

Say today from 6:00 pm to 10:00 pm I was driving around Indiana.

In that 4 hours I actually drove 1.5 hours. I stopped and ate 30 minutes. I then spent a total of 2 hours on duty not driving. Here is what my log would say if I wanted to group that time together and not log as my day went exactly.

I would show

First 2 hours on-duty not driving (line 4)
Second 30 minutes off duty (line 1)
Third 1.5 hours of driving.

If my day started # 6:00 pm (after a 10 hour break) my 14 hour would end # 8:00 pm. Therefore the local work took 4 hours out of my 14 and only 1.5 hours of my driving. Therefore I can still drive 9.5 hours but I can not drive passed 8:00 pm.

Hence if you ended your day after working all day OTR you would be in violation because you DROVE passed your 14th hour.
REason they want you to log it as I stated so you are not driving passed your 14th hour. Now you can be on line 4 passed the 14th hour all you want.

Is that what you are saying?

 

Thanks Logs I have it now, I was confused about how it was going to show on the recap. Now I understand. Thanks again.

 

If you're hauling hazmat then I wouldn't show any off-duty time until it's either gone or I've been released from the load.

 

Kind of hard to do when transporting it coast to coast as a solo driver. It is done by many drivers legally.

 

Done yes, legally I seriously doubt it. I sign the shipping papers saying I'm responsible to me that means I'm on -duty. Stupid yes. Beisdes the only place you could possibly be off-duty and loaded is in an area that's authorized. I've seen, many times, a truck that's placareded and parked along the side of the road which could never be legal unless it's attended and the sleeper doesn't count.

 

If memory serves, with some exceptions, can't a hazmat load be parked alongside the road - so long as the truck is more than 5 feet away from the road itself? (not for a moment do I think these loads are that far away - just talking legalities)

I agree with you that the sleeper doesn't count as 'attended', since you cannot control access to the load from slumberland. I really need to dig up my FMCSR and confirm that, though.

Let me pose an alternate question:

It's been my understanding that - unless otherwise indicated - transport of hazmat through a tunnel is verboten. That is, there need not be a sign saying "hazmat bad, go away. take route X". If you haul haz, you should be routed, or make yourself aware of the alt route and take it automatically.

If my memory is correct, I have a serious issue with a carrier I saw on Thursday - drove a placarded truck through the I-80 tunnels in Rock Springs, WY.

If I'm wrong, I've stressed over nothing. Mostly because I'm too lazy to grab my greenbook.

Besides, it's more fun talking to y'all

 

It is the type of hazmat that rules.

 

RM - thanks. So they were probably ok - was corrosive and.. something else. I forget now. Neither was listed as explosive or flamable.. or poisonous, etc.