log book questions

Discussion in 'Trucking Industry Regulations' started by evd, Sep 9, 2012.

  1. Guitar Man

    Guitar Man Medium Load Member

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    Pretty sure your boss is correct.But maybe keep a book in your possession for when these times happen,and mark it as you leave the yard and when you get back. I drove local and I kept a book of my hours and times,just in case. Better safe than sorry
     
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  3. Scalemaster

    Scalemaster Heavy Load Member

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    If you, the driver, stay within 100 air mile radius (115 statute miles) of where you start, and get back and clock off within 12 hours, then you meet the "local" exception.

    If you are going out to meet a driver and drive his rig back, it does not matter where the truck has been, only where you have been.
     
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  4. evd

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    Thanks guys for all reply starting this week i going to 3 shift so my rescues on fridays will be first thing i do so i should be good in hours .
    Guys i think i got lucky and got a good job 99% i working as jockey i did not have enough experience and they give me a chance and maybe few month i can make delivery every day .

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    start with no experience and now i can back up here in fair time after 2 weeks .
     
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  5. RickG

    RickG Road Train Member

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    But he said he worked 16 hours by the time he completed 1 day . If he works over 12 hours some days does that eliminate the 100 mile exemption altogether ?
     
  6. evd

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    i will change shift next week so this wont happen again all recues will be done at start of shift so will be total of on duty betwen 8 hour and 10 hours .

    sorry by next week i mean starting tomorrow.
     
  7. Pedigreed Bulldog

    Pedigreed Bulldog Road Train Member

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    FMCSR regs are interstate...and the 100 air mile radius exemption is found within the FMCSR regs. I don't know where you (and others) get the "no crossing state lines" crap, but state lines have nothing to do with eligibility for claiming the 100 air mile radius exemption. There is nothing "vague" about the exemption....start & stop each days work inside of a 12 hour window....complete your day in the same location as it began....stay inside the 100 air-mile radius....and your carrier must maintain a record of your hours worked. As long as all of that is done, you don't need a log book. State lines don't matter. The freight you are hauling doesn't matter. The log book is only there to track your hours worked and ensure that you are not driving more than 11 hours. Between loading, unloading, fueling, receiving your dispatch, dropping, hooking, inspecting the truck, etc...it is #### near impossible to drive more than 11 hours in a 12 hour day...so what's the point of logging? There have been days where I would have spent more time drawing lines in that stupid book than I did actually working if I had to keep a log book current to each and every duty status change throughout the course of my day.

    Again, state lines don't matter, and all exceeding the 12th hour during the work day means is that a log book page should be filled out for that day. No violations...as long as he fills out a log book page for the day.

    ...and he doesn't need to fill out the previous 7 days, either, as he operated under the 100 air mile exemption on those days and therefore was not required to fill out the log book pages on those days.

    No. You only need to have a log book page completed for the days which you do not meet the requirements of the 100 air-mile exemption.

    Running local, ending every shift at the same location as you began has the advantage of using the 16 hour exception once per week....just fill out a log book page on that day.


    http://www.fmcsa.dot.gov/rules-regu...fmcsr/fmcsrruletext.aspx?reg=395.1&guidence=Y
     
  8. snowman01

    snowman01 Road Train Member

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    I'm just wondering why everyone is arguing over the rules and all of the questions. Why not just keep a log and mark all of the days he works switcher on duty not driving and log when he go's out as on duty driving? Takes only a minute and would make it easier. Its what I do
     
  9. snowwy

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    why would you do something you don't really need to do. ifyou don't exceed 100 miles. you don't need a log. plain and simple. only a time card.

    you only need a log graph for anything over 12 hours. and isj't there a one day exemption for 16 hours??

    i'll take pics of my time card. but i'm not doing any logs.
     
  10. snowman01

    snowman01 Road Train Member

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    Because it only takes a few minutes to do it and solves all of the above questions.
     
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  11. snowman01

    snowman01 Road Train Member

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    I believe there is a one time exemption for 16hrs so he could probably use it as rescuing a truck might qualify for it. I'm not sure I would want to be the one testing this unless the company agreed to pay a fine if that wasn't the case as this exemption is for adverse weather, breakdowns of your truck etc. Not for rush hour traffic and stuff. IDK..good question.
     
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