Log book vs. 100 mile radius rule

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  1. Steamnsteel

    Steamnsteel Bobtail Member

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    Thread Revival Dredge:
    If I live 100 miles from the load pickup location can I take the 100 mile radius for going to the dock and back to my yard?
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    Pickup on Thursday or Friday, 100 mile exemption. Use a log book for OTR on Saturday or Sunday to make a delivery on Monday or Tuesday.
     
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  3. snowwy

    snowwy Road Train Member

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    I beleive the 100 miles is from your office and i thinj you return every night.
     
  4. Pedigreed Bulldog

    Pedigreed Bulldog Road Train Member

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    Must start & stop at the same location within a 12 hour period in order to claim the exception. If you leave the house, make the pickup, and return to the house, never leaving the 100 air-mile radius, then yes, you would qualify. If you leave the house, make the pickup, and return to the company yard on the other side of town, you would not.
     
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  5. Steamnsteel

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    I used a nautical mile radius map and entered my yard location (home address) and the pickup location, 94.536 nautical mile radius. I am in business for my future plan, trying to get things going with minimal debt and supplementing my early retirement a little.
     
  6. snowwy

    snowwy Road Train Member

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    You can forget early retirement. IRS won't allow that. :)
     
  7. MACK E-6

    MACK E-6 Moderator Staff Member

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    Could you link to this map?
     
  8. brian991219

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    You can, but why? The 100 mile exemption does not relieve you of complying with the hours of service, so the hours you run on a time card (requirement of using exemption) would still count against your 60 or 70 hour weekly total. It would be legal to not have a log page for the local day, we do it all the time with tow trucks, but it confuses the roadside officer. It is easier to just log it for that day, keep a consecutive book and not have to explain to the officer why your book has missing dates.
     
  9. MACK E-6

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    It may confuse the officer to find a driver of a sleeper truck claiming the local exemption, but thankfully the ones I encounter are well versed in LTL guys doing this.
     
  10. Steamnsteel

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    Because I can get my regular loads, come back to my yard and then leave in time to make the delivery and come back on a regular paper log. This will be a part time venture to supplement my retirement for a short time and I plan on running only 8 days or less out of 30 after the end of 2017.
     
  11. brian991219

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    I had a problem a few times, mostly in NY but was put out of service once, incorrectly, in San Jon, New Mexico. I was based in Albuquerque, usually ran under exemption but had a call for an ABF swap in Amarillo, TX. Loaded up, made my swap, and on the way back was pulled into the POE for inspection. He argued that I needed to recreate all 7 days to go outside the 100 mile radius, also told me I could not mix and match. Completely wrong, but it cost me 10 in the bunk even though I had his supervisor straighten him out, by the time that happened I didn't have enough time to get back to ABQ. I even showed him the guidance the FMCSA provides to prevent this situation, he said and I quote "that is only their opinion, I interpret it differently". Fortunately, I was a member of the safety management council of the New Mexico Trucking Association at the time and sat with the MTD Captain on the panel.

    In NY, we run sleeper car haulers but two of our trucks stay local most days and do not run log books, occasionally they run just far enough out to need a book, the officers have a hard time grasping that a sleeper truck would be used local for any reason. I have a sleeper on my truck, do run out enough to log daily, but rarely ever sleep away and get questioned about it all the time. I tell them I like the sleeper to change in when I get wet or dirty, seems to shut them up LOL!
     
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