Log book vs. 100 mile radius rule

It's because they probably don't understand the regs. BTW, a company can require it, just because they want to. Company rules can be more restrictive than regs, not less restrictive.

I ran for a company doing local work, out of Portland, OR, we went into Washington on a daily basis and only time sheets were required, as long as we stayed within the radius.

 

Just for shts and giggles I think im going to ask logs monday and see what they say.As much drop and hook I do,it sucks to log it because it messes up the logs.As a local driver we have to hand in our daily log every day with the paperwork otherwise you'll hear about it,lol.

 

Originally Posted by Autocar
There is no Federal regulation stating that.

You have to keep a logbook simply because your company said so and they make the rules.

 

ya I know but does'nt hurt to find out the reasoning.

 

in a 100 air mile radius depending on the terrain will give you 105 to 110 land miles, i believe the dot has a chart or something like that that they use. i saw one a long time ago but don't remember how the wording went.

 

http://www.fmcsa.dot.gov/rules-regulations/administration/fmcsr/fmcsrruletext.aspx?reg=395.8

Hours of service of drivers

§ 395.8Driver's record of duty status.(a) Except for a private motor carrier of passengers (nonbusiness), every motor carrier shall require every driver used by the motor carrier to record his/her duty status for each 24 hour period using the methods prescribed in either paragraph (a)(1) or (2) of this section.(1) Every driver who operates a commercial motor vehicle shall record his/her duty status, in duplicate, for each 24-hour period. The duty status time shall be recorded on a specified grid, as shown in paragraph (g) of this section. The grid and the requirements of paragraph (d) of this section may be combined with any company forms. The previously approved format of the Daily Log, Form MCS-59 or the Multi-day Log, MCS-139 and 139A, which meets the requirements of this section, may continue to be used.(2) Every driver who operates a commercial motor vehicle shall record his/her duty status by using an automatic on-board recording device that meets the requirements of §395.15 of this part. The requirements of this section shall not apply, except paragraphs (e) and

http://www.fmcsa.dot.gov/rules-regulations/administration/fmcsr/fmcsrruletext.aspx?reg=395.1


§ 395.1Scope of rules in this part.

(e) Short-haul operations—(1) 100 air-mile radius driver. A driver is exempt from the requirements of § 395.8 if: (i) The driver operates within a 100 air-mile radius of the normal work reporting location;(ii) The driver, except a driver-salesperson, returns to the work reporting location and is released from work within 12 consecutive hours; (iii)(A) A property-carrying commercial motor vehicle driver has at least 10 consecutive hours off duty separating each 12 hours on duty; (B) A passenger-carrying commercial motor vehicle driver has at least 8 consecutive hours off duty separating each 12 hours on duty;(iv)(A) A property-carrying commercial motor vehicle driver does not exceed the maximum driving time specified in §395.3(a)(3) following 10 consecutive hours off duty; or(B) A passenger-carrying commercial motor vehicle driver does not exceed 10 hours maximum driving time following 8 consecutive hours off duty; and(v) The motor carrier that employs the driver maintains and retains for a period of 6 months accurate and true time records showingA) The time the driver reports for duty each day;(B) The total number of hours the driver is on duty each day;(C) The time the driver is released from duty each day; and(D) The total time for the preceding 7 days in accordance with §395.8(j)(2) for drivers used for the first time or intermittently.

 

I drove for a company that ran on how you do, they had a local log book that almost looked like a regular log but no graph to fill out, just had a area to write in your start time, breaks lunch, and finish time, ya we had to carry both logs but it's worth it, ask your company about it. when i did this, it was back in the early 90's so things could have changed.

 

Autocar is correct, i live in Southeastern Wisconsin and if local and within the 100 airmile rule, you could leave from Milwaukee drive to Northern Indiana and back with out a log book as long as all the rules are followed. Still, i am sure that a company will still require for you to keep some kind of track of what you are doing just in case you get stopped at a scale.

 

Why do these guys make such a fuss and have such an adversion to making out a log on a daily basis? They're paid by the hour and even if they're not how long does it really take?