Log book vs. 100 mile radius rule

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  1. Treefork

    Treefork Road Train Member

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    When I worked for Coke, we just kept time sheets in our trucks and had to log any day we went over 12 hours. I remember a few days guys running from the dock to punch out so they didnt hit that 12th hour. Logs are easy but when you just spent the last 12 hours double fingerprinting 30k of soda, you just want to go home.


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  3. jakebrake12

    jakebrake12 Road Train Member

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    That's the adverse driving rule. The 16 hour rule is completely different and the two cannot be used together. If you use the adverse rule it extends drive time to 13 but you still can't exceed the 14'th total hour on line 3.
     
  4. nascarchuck

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    Now you tell me!!! :D

    At the time none of us knew any of the regulations, etc concerning logs. We were just told by our boss to keep them. Many times we drove over 11 and worked over 14. Guess that I could had easily gotten my hand spanked if we would had been caught. Luckily if you drive a wrecker for a reputable company the cops tend to over look alot of things.
     
  5. secretariat

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    thats the same thing my dispatch manager told me to do. the only time i marked driving is when i moved the vehicle to from city to city
     
  6. secretariat

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    did that many times myself. also had to do that too many times for that 14! sorry to get off topic just remembering the bad ole times at the big red circle.
     
  7. Pedigreed Bulldog

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    Wrong. The days which you were exempt from needing a log book (operating under the 100 air-mile radius exemption) you do not need a log book. Period. On the few & far between days which you venture beyond the 100 air-mile radius or work past the 12th hour, you only need a log book page for that day. You do NOT need to go back and create 7 days worth of logs...only the single day which you are not exempt under the 100 air-mile radius rule.

    http://www.fmcsa.dot.gov/rules-regu...fmcsr/fmcsrruletext.aspx?reg=395.1&guidence=Y

     
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  8. Pedigreed Bulldog

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    State lines have nothing to do with the 100 air-mile radius. If you start and stop at the same location every day, you are released from duty within 12 hours of going on duty, and you stay inside of that 100 air-mile radius, you are allowed to operate under the 100 air-mile exemption. YOUR COMPANY may require you to complete a RODS for the day...but the regulations do not.
     
  9. wis bang

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    When I had logs being scanned, we had to use a grid sheet for the time record.

    The driver just came from off duty down to line 4 and stayed there until; ending his day WITHIN 12 CONSECUTIVE HOURS and at the same location where he started.

    We had them write time record above this area to keep the DOT troopers from jumping to conclustions.

    I had to use the grid to account for their hours w/ the scanning program.

    When the DOT audited the first thing they asked was that I not include ANY 100-air mile guys.

    I had close to 90 of the 100 air mile guys out of 145 units. I could have saved the $8.00/month scanning fee for all of them!

    BTW it is 114.63 mile radius around your 'work reportring location' and you can drive as many miles as possible in a normal 11 hours driving shift as long as you stay inside that area AND do not go over 12 hours.

    From central NJ we can reach the SE corner of CT, Weschester County, NY, Eastern PA and NE Delaware but Cape May, NJ would be too far!
     
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  10. Brandonpdx

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    haha, yeah I've practically jumped out of a moving truck James Bond style and made the beeline to the time clock to avoid that extra BS.:biggrin_2559:
     
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  11. Brandonpdx

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    Yeah you can bracket multi same-city stops on line 4 and nobody will question that. Or if you want to get really anal you could bracket a combination of time between lines 3 and 4 if you have a rough estimate of how much time you spent behind the wheel between local stops. It eats into your 11 obviously but if you're making multi-stop deliveries in a big city you probably ain't gonna be driving 11 hours that day anyway.
     
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