Log book

You should be logging Off-Duty or Sleeper Berth (whichever is more appropriate at the time) when you are sitting and being unloaded. It is perfectly legal to do so, however you may need to a letter from your carrier stating your authority to do this (and keep a copy in your truck if questioned at inspection).

 

valid point.
but, I THINK he is talking about the 14

 

But unless he gets at least 8 hours sleeper it still goes against his 14 hours . But not getting paid to sit ? Decent carriers allow 2 hours loading or unloading then they start paying detention time .

 

isn't it 8 hours these days?
detention, ahh yes here it is that way.
USA wouldn't pay any accessorial pay if you got more than 2500 in that week. (which was 99.9% of the time)

 

Thanks , that was a typo .
But while I'm back I never did answer his question about logging legally and making money . My carrier and many others audit every log of every driver and you better be legal . Do I make money ? I sure do because I am paid detention time and guaranteed a minimum of $.40 a mile every mile I run including deadhead and bobtail . I run dedicated so all empties go right back to the terminal . All my waiting is done at home . So can it be done ? Yes . What are the odds a newbie will get these working conditions ? Very slim .

 

i thought so. LOL
i did good at USA legally 3K plus without running out of hours.
here at arnold i seem to run low on hours even on a "short" week it's the short runs, hurry up, wait.... i think

 

I've been running legal for 17yrs and making money doing it. you just need to do 3 things

1: Work for a good company that pays detention after 2 hrs. These companies arren't just going to take that kind of loss and will get ahold of the shipper/reciever and raise hell.

2: make sure they pay you for layovers. any company that won't is a company to stay away from

3: Tell your disp. that you don't like sitting either. You would rather be running. So he needs to do his job and get on crs to get you the heck out of there.

 

It seems there's always a way to log to get your full 11. The obvious ways to get you all have to do with distance and toll and scale records.

Logging to get more than the 11 is where the risk is, unless you're backtracking over the same area to do it.

 

"Is it possible to run a totally legal log and make a paycheck?"

it was. back when there was still freight available. I always ran legal and made a decent income. but now you can't make money no matter what you do because, well, as I said - no freight. but what are you proposing to do? stay up 24/7? never sleep? good luck with that.