Log grid DOT Examples of 14 hour rule

Discussion in 'Trucking Industry Regulations' started by LogsRus, Jan 13, 2007.

  1. LogsRus

    LogsRus Log it Legal

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    Below is a link that should take you to 8 examples of day 1 & day 2 explaining the 11 & 14 hour rule:

    It amazes me how many companies do not explain to drivers they can be on line 4 past their 14 hour, which might only help the drivers. I say get your fuel at the end of the day whenever possible or work on your truck at the end (if that is safely capable of waiting). It doesn't matter you can do whatever after the 14th hour except drive. Before you go to driving you make sure you have your proper break, assuming you don't split it would be a 10 hour break, if you split you would take either your 2 or 8?

    I also have a power point that will go over a day 1 & day 2 on the 11 & 14 hour rule. I also have a one sheet that goes over split breaking, it is allot of reading but that's because I can't talk to you so I had to type what I would say. If you want anything I have you need to send me your e-mail address (not on the board, but pm me) so I can e-mail it. I will attempt to post it on the "Picture board", but for now e-mail me.

    http://www.fmcsa.dot.gov/rules-regulations/topics/hos/hos-logbook-examples.htm
    See if you can figure out if the driver is in violation or isn't. If you figure the answer out (without cheating) then you have a pretty good understanding, although none of these examples throw in the real life stuff, my example does this.
     
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  3. 2xR

    2xR Medium Load Member

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    Splitting the break really gets confusing for me. I think I've got it, then when it's time to put pen to paper, I get shaky.

    I know an 8-2 split is doable, but is a 2-8 okay as well?

    I have one trip where I drive for 6 hours, then have to stop for 2-5 hours while off-loading and re-loading occurs. I usually catch a nap, potty break, etc., and count the time as "off duty" or "sleeper". Since it's less than 8 hours the 14 hour clock continues to click. When I leave this stop I'll drive a few more hours, then hit the bunk for 8. I have been working under the assumption that after this 8 hours of bunk time, plus the previous time off, the 14 hour clock has reset. Am I correct?
     
  4. LogsRus

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    2-8 is ok also, but if the 2 comes first then you can not extend the 14 hour; but instead of taking 10 hours you can take an 8 hour break and be on the road 2 hours sooner. After you get a 8&2 break always go to the end of the previous break and count over 14 hours, look forward if you have 8 or more in the SLEEPER (MUST ALL BE IN THE SLEEPER, UNLESS A 10 HOUR BREAK) If you do have 8 or more then count over by the number of hours in the sleeper from the orignal 14 hour you just counted and that is your final 14 hour window. Driving time you must not total more than 11 hours of driving (line 3 only) prior to the last break and after the last break.

    I have an example I can e-mail you it is not a day 1 & day 2 example, I will be getting one of those together pretty soon. Most drivers do not have a problem starting a split, but rather contiuning a split. It still works to your advantage to split break, but you need to understand it and use it to understand it. please e-mail me and I will send you what I have s far (if you hva
     
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