So if you drove 4 hours in a rental car and got right in the truck you would only have 7 hours of available drive time? I always thought it was line 4 myself.
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Discussion in 'Questions From New Drivers' started by xlsdraw, Jul 10, 2014.
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http://www.fmcsa.dot.gov/regulations/title49/section/395.2semi retired semi driver, paul_4lp, not4hire and 1 other person Thank this. -
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"(j) Travel time(1) When a property-carrying commercial motor vehicle driver at the direction of the motor carrier is traveling, but not driving or assuming any other responsibility to the carrier, such time must be counted as on-duty time unless the driver is afforded at least 10 consecutive hours off duty when arriving at destination, in which case he/she must be considered off duty for the entire period."
Note that if you drive yourself you cannot use the 10 hour rest break rule to log it all as off duty. -
Wait a minute, where does it say you even have to log on duty?
You are relieved of your duties at that point coming out of orientation,
If you are transporting yourself to a truck or from the truck, it is your time and you are not on duty, you are off duty unless you are being paid for that trip and then it is questionable because you have zero duties related to the truck or its operation. -
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But since you like to be exact in verbiage, what difference would Line 3 or Line 4 make in being sent (via rental car, at the company's direction and compensation)? Correct logging (legal, no holds barred) would still be using hours from the 70.
Now, a secondary argument regarding the "difference between CMV and non-CMV: re. "Personal Conveyance"; If applying the absolute definition of "driving time" (according to your link and quote--"Driving time means all time spent at the driving controls of a commercial motor vehicle in operation."
There could be NO personal conveyance, since the use of that would require the driver be at the controls of a CMV. No matter as in WA (PC bobtail only, along with other states) or in CA using the "unladen" exception, still the driver is at the controls of a CMV.
Even the FMCSA has exceptions to most every line in the regulation book, along with example differences in interpretation by the different states. Bottom line...check with your carrier on how they designate what goes on Line 3 and what can be done on Line 4.
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