log violation quetions

Well that's a good thing because they are not designed to fix problems. They are desigened to significantly improve compliance of HOS.

Now many believe the HOS should be more flexible, many feel they are to flexible now but EOBR's simply record compliance.

 

You can exceed the 14 hr rule if you are not driving, it must be line 4 and you can't work beyond the 70, if you work beyond the 14 and customer doesn't have overnite pking you need to find the closest safe haven and go to line 5, in the flag or notes you must put in ( no overnite pking at cust have to fined safe have) but the 14 hour rule can be worked if you don't drive, what ever overage you worked will come of your 70hr rule

 

but if you can say legal like it was due too bad weather, then your allowed too use addtional time, i thought i read that in the green book, i may be wroung

 

You can work past yor 70 -- you just cant drive past it.

And the weather clause is for unforseen weather conditions -- if the newsmen have been talking about the storm of the century hitting, you can go out in it and run past your 11/14/70 because you had time to plan for it. Likewise, you can go over due to a bad accident that brought traffic to an unexpected halt -- but not if the traffic could be foreseen (LA 405 at 5pm)

 

The exception only allows driving beyond your 11. It does not cover driving beyond your 14/70.

 

If you have a source, I'd love to see it (learn something new every day). As I read it (395.1b in conjunction with 395.3) a driver is allowed to exceed the 11, 14 or 70 by 2 hours if those 2 hours were run on the same day a driver encountered adverse conditions. You could not, in my understanding, exceed your 70 on wednesday because of adverse conditions encountered monday.

 

I ran People net E logs for a while, when I was about to go over hours i would explain that I was making a delivery, and had to get to the nearest safe haven after.

 

I found it HERE.

This may be old information that needs to be updated. I looked for Section 395.1(b)(1)(ii), but it is not present in the current regulations on the FMCSA website.

 

hmm thanks -- good to know