Log violations BECAUSE of my Mentor.

Discussion in 'Trucking Industry Regulations' started by Bayer-Z28, Sep 1, 2010.

  1. Bayer-Z28

    Bayer-Z28 Light Load Member

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    True true... Thanx guys/gals..

    Swift said that they are working on a electronic log thing. They allready went to a two day on one page loose leaf log. No more carbons. I got a load out in the morning, so I'll check back when I can..
     
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  3. Powder Joints

    Powder Joints Subjective Prognosticator

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    Scrw it, hang um from the yard arm, They put you with hum thats not ratting him out, he's the trainer he responsible.

    In a Hot Flash, serve him up on a silver platter.
     
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  4. Hardlyevr

    Hardlyevr Road Train Member

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    Your signature on the logbook page means you are responsible for what it says. So DON'T let anybody else mess with or doctor it up!
     
  5. INF3RNAL

    INF3RNAL Light Load Member

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    It would seem to me Swift should expect their trainers to do their job and check your logs, so they should be sending him to the same class for letting it happen (or in your case, encouraging it).
     
  6. NYROADIE

    NYROADIE Heavy Load Member

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    As much as you want to blow him in DON"T DO IT, when questioned about it he will throw you under the bus in a heart beat! Kinda like ... "well boss I thought he would shape up but he just seemed a little slow on the up take, may be you should get rid of him b-4..."
    Take the class and just admit you must have made a mistake after all your a newbie and they expect it, no biggie. I once logged 45 miles in 15 min. got my hand slapped and the bad boy letter, guess what? Life goes on and I don't make mistakes like that any more. Use this as a learning experience.
     
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  7. Raiderfanatic

    Raiderfanatic Heavy Load Member

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    I kinda agree here. You are the one who will get in trouble for logs being wrong. He is suppose to be training you. Your drive time can't be fudged. Unloading/loading time is a different story but he should be training/teaching you right.

    Maybe this 'trainer' shouldn't be hung out and it is your responsibility too. But something should be said to someone about how he is acting as a trainer too. I doubt you are the only one he's led down the wrong path.
     
  8. CondoCruiser

    CondoCruiser The Legend

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    It's not right but a student accepts 100% responsibility when he first gets in that seat. So when in doubt, question your trainer. If you don't like his answer then move up the chain of command.

    When I was in training, I had a female trainer. She was tired from driving all night when we got to the receiver. She couldn't back into the dock she was so tired.
    She woke me up and asked me to back in. It was a ragged out dock and the black weather surround was ripped in places and hanging.

    I started backing and I was about 6" off center. I wanted to take a pullup and realign. She stood back there and franticly waved me back. I listened to her and busted a 1' piece of 2x4 holding the canvas out on the dock. That $1 piece of wood cost me $400 because the receiver filed a claim against the company.

    Even though I was listening to my trainer, I was at fault. Some lessons you have to learn the hard way.
     
  9. ChromeDome

    ChromeDome Road Train Member

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    Lucky for you they did not have any of those large metal brackets under that covering Condo.
    I have seen people not see those and hit them, taking doors off of trailers.

    Logging by miles is a very risky thing to do, for company drivers and O/O's .
    The DOT knows people do that, and if they are averaged to within a few tenths each day then the DOT will know that you are falsifying your logs. It is just not possible to do that day in and day out.
    I checked my logs for a 6 month period one time.
    Running mostly east of the Mississippi.
    My truck would run as fast as I wanted to go, no governor, and I would normally try and run a couple over the speed limit. No more than 5 over.
    Most of these area's are 65 zones, OH was still 55 on anything accept the pike.
    In that 6 months my average speed was 57 mph.
    Same thing with a truck governed at 62 my 6 month average was 54.

    So while you may have days that you do average over 60, they are in reality rare.
    The DOT knows this and watches for it.
     
  10. Okieron

    Okieron Crusty Okie

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    yeah guy take it easy learn from it. its over now your on your own and he's in the past. just do your class it goes fast and be done with it. but one word of caution I was taught to average also and then learned the hard way not too and I was with Swift. don't do it log actual and you'll be good to go, no need to fudge it at all.
     
  11. mattbnr

    mattbnr Road Train Member

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    i have a question about log books while im here. If i am in my personal vehicle do i need to log drive time? Like right now i am on home time. Tomorrow i will be driving a hour to get to my home terminal. Do i have to log that as drive time or do i keep it on off duty? i assume off duty but someone told me i need to log it as drive time as im driving.
     
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