Logbook and HOS

wording is so vague sometimes, you would think "normal work reporting location" would refer to home terminal, but if you are working on a job 100 miles away does the jobsite become your normal work reporting location ??

I dunno, you raise a good point and you may be technically correct that a log is required, however, what we may have here is an unenforceable law, and likely a widely non-enforced law. It would be really difficult for a cop to issue a citation for lack of a log book without defining your work location, showing you are more than 150 miles away, and/or getting you to admit you do not return to the location.

Grumppy makes a good point about technically you would write your on-duty time in your log for when you get back in the class A truck, but then you're again in a situation of how does the cop get evidence of that ? Is he going to look at your log and ask you "Did you drive a CMV on this day showing off-duty ?" and you're gonna say "Yes sir, I drove the F-550 for 2-1/4 hours" ? well then, I guess you better put it in your log.

 

Might I suggest the O.P. do a little C.M.A. (Cover My Asterisk)?
When in doubt log it, hand in the logs. If they keep them great, if not, well someday they'll get audited and if you have the books you can't get nailed. Those 550's are indeed a CMV hell go across a state line in a company 1 ton (350) and you need a log book.

 

we all do what we can get away with
whether on elog or paper to maximize our availability
if it doesn't fit your sense of right or wrong move on

 

I wish everyone would get that state line stuff out of their head. It has nothing to do with state lines hasn't for many years.

 

Yes I agree if he starts loging legal his pay will be decreased that's why his employer says he doesn't need to log it.

 

their driver trainers told them that is how it is so they know not-

 

at the very least,the op needs to keep a daily record of start times/end times when in that car/non cmv for accuracy in pay and just because.I would not log a thing when not in a cmv and keep separate records,only showing the cmv logs/records to the dot.not sure if driving the non cmv is any of their business whether interstate or not.

having logs while driving that cmv would certainly lower the chances of getting a full inspection if/when checked.full blown inspections generally seem to be derived from not having the basic necessities initially in my experience.

 

did the OP say they were grossed at 35k lbs and crossing state lines? If so IFTA would be required. Idk any other way to record ifta miles without a log. If no ifta is required then the state line doesnt matter as long as its within 150 miles. CDL still required for that kind of weight. If not every person with a class d would be running 1 ton hotshot trucks.