Logbook for racing?

Discussion in 'Trucking Industry Regulations' started by SPC Racing, Aug 14, 2015.

  1. SPC Racing

    SPC Racing Bobtail Member

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    First of all I apologize if this is not in the right thread.

    I'm wondering how to fill out my log book when I'm going racing. I have a 1 ton dually I pull a 48ft enclosed trailer with that is my personal vehicle when I'm not pulling the trailer or racing. When I get to the races I park the trailer and unhook my truck for the weekend and when all racing duties are done for the day and the trailer is locked up I'm relieved of all racing duties, but I still have to drive to the hotel and back the next day. Once I'm relieved of all racing duties do I log off duty and not worry? If so how do I explain from thursday/Friday to sunday/Monday why there's more miles on the truck? Or do I try and stay within the hours of service? Which is hard since we get to the track at 6am and are there til 9-10pm.
     
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  3. KB3MMX

    KB3MMX Road Train Member

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    Is this a business or personal venture?

    Business use falls under class A FMCSA regs with the vehicle if the trailer exceeds 10,000 gvwr.

    Personal/leisure use doesn't require any logging or commercial requirements.

    If you've lettered the truck, you would be wise to cover the info when it's used for personal use. To be safe, it would be smart to document the miles you used it for personal use as well, including personal use fuel consumption as it's not tax deductible.
     
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  4. SPC Racing

    SPC Racing Bobtail Member

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    It's private/personal, but in Wisconsin if you race for money your are considered in commerce. I'm fine with all the stuff that goes along with dot regs and have it all taken care of. The logbook is the part I'm wondering about since I'm using a personal truck to get the trailer to and from the race, but once the trailer is unhooked I use the truck for personal through out the weekend. I'm just wondering how if I log off duty and I'm putting miles on the truck how do I explain that?
     
  5. heavyhaulerss

    heavyhaulerss Road Train Member

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    I thought the post was asking a different kind of question. I was just going to say... answer, 2 log books. ;)
     
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  6. average joe

    average joe Medium Load Member

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    It imo would be off duty, personal use not under dispatch. you can work as long as you want at the track but you just can't drive after you are on duty for 14 hrs. you are required to take 10 hrs off before you can drive.
     
  7. Roadmedic

    Roadmedic Road Train Member

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    The use of the truck when you are off duty is like personal conveyance. You do not need to log the use to a motel and such.
     
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  8. Studebaker Hawk

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    Doesn't sound like you are going to run out of hours under the circumstances. Go ahead and log everything.
    If you are just bobtailing to the motel and back it sounds like personal conveyance, but there is little agreement on exactly what that entails. Scalemaster can give us some guidance here...
     
  9. Pedigreed Bulldog

    Pedigreed Bulldog Road Train Member

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    If you aren't hooked to a trailer, you are under 10,000# and no longer subject to the HOS rules...drive around all you like off duty, and if anybody asks (even if you're pulling the trailer around EMPTY) you are allowed personal use to and from motels, restaurants, etc...in the vicinity of where you are stopped.

    While hooked to the trailer hauling to and from the race, you'd be on line 3, and use line 4 during the race if you have any responsibilities during the race (driver, pit crew, etc...)...unless you're just a spectator in which case you'd still be on line 1.

    If it is your personal vehicle when you aren't pulling the trailer, I wouldn't worry about the extra miles. Keep a record of which miles were hauling the car, and which miles were personal use. You should be doing that anyway for tax purposes with a dual purpose (business/personal) vehicle since only the business use of the vehicle can be written off.
     
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  10. Ridgeline

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    How do you do this without a US DOT number. Most states require this now thanks to the US DOT and their insistence that all commercial vehicles require it - or as it is told to us here in Michigan where they are making even construction pickups get them.
     
  11. SPC Racing

    SPC Racing Bobtail Member

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    First off thanks for all the input, it really helps. Sounds like whether it's close or not on my hos I'll be fine to bobtail to dinner or the hotel without worrying about the logbook.

    I do have a dot number I made a bracket for that I can remove when I'm using the truck for personal use so I don't draw that much attention to myself. I also have my cdl, fedmed,ucr,us dot, annual inspection, carry 1m in liability since I cross state lines with race fuel, but not enough for hazmat and all the other little things that go along with the dot regs. Before anyone says I don't need any of it I was stopped and a very friendly dot officer layed it all out very clearly how Wisconsin looks at racing and towing to the races. With only a warning I figured I'd take care of everything and follow the laws so i can keep racing because it's only a matter of time if not already before the dot is stopping race rigs big and small and checking them as much as commercial trucks are.
     
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