I have been driving under the 100 mile exclusion for the last month. I have not been doing a log for this. At the end of this assignment I have to return the trailer which is in the next state and more than 100 miles. There is a reasonable chance I will hit a weigh station on the way. I have never had to stop at one.
Would it work to take a page in my log book and put the dates August 15 to September 29 inclusive and mark it 100 mile exclusion just for a record and then start a page the right way the day I make the trip?
Logging for trip if I have been 100 mile exclusion
Discussion in 'Questions From New Drivers' started by Leea, Sep 27, 2011.
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The day you go over a 100 mi, start a log with the previous 8 days on 1 page, as long as it's in the same month. Put down local with the dates, then on your day you're going over the 100, log it as you're doing it.
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Actually, that isn't even required. As a local driver, operating under the 100 air-mile exemption, you do not need to carry any log book pages in the truck with you except for if you happen to exceed the time or distance limits. Once you are no longer covered by the exemption, you must immediately fill out a log book page to the best of your recollection to accurately reflect the current day up to your last change of duty status, and then continue logging the day just as you would if you were OTR.
You do not need the previous 7 days log book pages because you were local, operating under the 100 air mile exemption, and therefore were not required to fill them out.
You cannot use a single log book page to show more than one day unless you were off duty for multiple days. If you are on duty for any part of the day, and need to fill out a log book page, that day needs it's own separate log book page. You cannot show the previous 7 days "local" on the same log book page. -
I run local and im exempt , BUT you need to keep track of your hour's, either YOU keep track or Your company. Do you clock in and clock out ? Anyways , I have a form that has 31 days on it and on each day(line) I put in the time I start and when I finish and total of hours for the day, mileage is not require but look's nice and neat when filled in. And you have to keep track of your hour's for the last 7 day's. If You failed to prove your track of hour's, you will be cited and will have to go to court to prove to the judge that either you or YOUR company keep's track of your hour's. If your on duty over 12 hour's, you need to fill out a logsheet(logbook) for that day.
Before I started using my exemption form, I use to write my hour's on my logbbook under the remark section, I could fit about 20 day's in it. The DOT man told me, they dont care what you write it on, long as you keep track of your hour's.mtnMoma Thanks this. -
If you meet all of the requirements (as posted by dieselbear) you are then entitled to the 100 air mile radius exemption contained in 395.1.
If you are entitled to the exemption you are not required to carry any hours of service records with you in the truck.
If you are using a driver's record of duty status form (logbook) to satisfy the record keeping requirements of the motor carrier it need only contain the following information:
(e)(1)(v) The motor carrier that employs the driver maintains and retains for a period of 6 months accurate and true time records showing:
(e)(1)(v)(A) The time the driver reports for duty each day;
(e)(1)(v)(B) The total number of hours the driver is on duty each day;
(e)(1)(v)(C) The time the driver is released from duty each day; and
(e)(1)(v)(D) The total time for the preceding 7 days in accordance with §395.8(j)(2) for drivers used for the first time or intermittently.
You could just as easily record this information on a separate piece of paper (or a brown paper lunch bag for that matter).
The requirement to maintain time records that contain the above information applies to the motor carrier...it does not have to be with you in the truck. I have encountered several carriers who require their 100 air mile drivers to keep their time records in an actual log book (even though it is not a legal requirement).
Here's the but...it can create confusion.
I have seen more than one driver cited for an improperly maintained log book when in fact they were not even required to have one. This should not happen (and dieselbear would never do it) but I can assure you that it has.
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When you start driving OTR (which the OP will be doing), he needs the previous 8 days in a log book. If he only drives under the "100 mi rule" he doesn't, since records are kept in the office. Just as when you hire on with a new company and you have been off the road awhile, you fill out a log book in orientation for the previous 8 days, showing/logging the orientation class on line 4. If the drivers doing OTR on Monday for the first time in a long time and gets stopped, he better have the previous 8 on paper, Verbal won't cut it with Johnny Law.
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Incorrect! Look at the 'desk' version of the FMCSR w/ the guideance answers from the DOT. Their guideance answer to the question "What does a 100 air mile driver need to carry when using a log, do they need the 7 previous days?"...Their official answer is "NOTHING"
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This is the form I use http://www.fmcsa.dot.gov/documents/forms/DRIVERS-TIME- RECORD.pdf then just change over to the log book for the week I drive over the 100mile mark
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http://www.fmcsa.dot.gov/rules-regulations/truck/driver/hos/hos-faqs.asp#_Toc111021241
C-5. How does a driver comply if during a 7-day period the driver operates some days under the 100 air-mile radius exception, some days under the "non-CDL 150 air-mile radius" provision, and some days under neither?
The driver complies with the provisions of the 100 air-mile radius exception or the non-CDL, as defined by Part 383, 150 air-mile radius provision if either of those are applicable for the entire duty period (usually one day). For example, if a driver operates within the 100 air-mile radius for part of the day and then travels outside the radius during the same duty period, the exception would not apply. The driver must remain under the conditions of the exception for the entire duty period. Compliance may vary from one duty period to the next, depending on operating circumstances. A driver operating under the 100 air-mile radius exception for one day and then outside the radius for the second day would only be required to make a RODS for the second day.mtnMoma and Diesel Dave Thank this. -
Ah, Wis bang, you're not understanding. Let me re-word my post. If a 100 mi radius driver, one that drives within 100 miles day in and day out for months on end suddenly gets a run that will take him outside the 100 mile radius, he will then have to run a log, we all agree on that. What I'm saying is that he will need to document the previous 8 days as well in his log, showing him doing local work. He cannot just roll with 1 page and have nothing to show a Cop if he got stopped.
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