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Logging off duty when in sleeper. Yes or no?

Discussion in 'Trucking Industry Regulations' started by Aditransport, Dec 18, 2014.

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TLeaHeart said: ↑

again, it has NOTHING to do with being under dispatch or load... it has to do with your physical location... When you are at home, even if you just stop while under load, and sleep in your own bed, you are off duty... NOT IN YOUR TRUCK... if you sleep in your truck, that is sleeper berth... regardless of your load status.

The log book is totally about your physical location, and what you where doing at that time...
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Ok, let's be clear...........if OFF DUTY; you are OFF DUTY. None of their business if you slept in the truck, in a motel, or in your future ex-girlfriend's bed. The sleeper berth thing is a "new" piece of easy fodder that WY has picked up on of late. We put up with it; they will interpret it to suit them. Every other industry it's the other way around.

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Aditransport said: ↑

Thing is, he didn't give me a ticket or put me out of service. He put it on the inspection report with the violation code number. I'm an owner operator so it will probably just jack up my CSA score. Requesting a review will probably be pointless seeing as how it will be reviewed by the issuing officer anyway.
He was telling me how he was a truck driver for 20 years before he became a Nazi cop. I'm thinking BS on that too. I will try a data q review and see what happens. I just can't see how they can justify having to log sleeper time when you are not under a dispatch or a load and are truly off duty. Do I have to log sleeper time when I'm at home in my bed too? It's just ridiculous.
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Only once did I try the Data Q thing. But it does go back to the same cop that gave you the ticket to review it. Like he's going to change his mind then.

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kemosabi49 said: ↑

I know it sounds silly but technically he was correct. Even though he was showing his ###. You could have told him you stayed in a hotel.
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I was told you have to prove that. you have to keep the receipt and all that. Who cares?

what if I wasn't at a hotel? what if I have family who came to see me and I spent the night with them? how do I prove that?

you spend the night in another drivers truck, how do you prove that?

TLeaHeart said: ↑

again, it has NOTHING to do with being under dispatch or load... it has to do with your physical location... When you are at home, even if you just stop while under load, and sleep in your own bed, you are off duty... NOT IN YOUR TRUCK... if you sleep in your truck, that is sleeper berth... regardless of your load status.

The log book is totally about your physical location, and what you where doing at that time...
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incorrect, if you're sitting in the passenger seat its line 1, if you're in the sleeper berth its line 2.

that seems like arguing semantics, but whatever

Jabber1990, Dec 18, 2014

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When he asked, were you in the sleeper the whole time? Start coughing without covering your mouth and tell him you stayed in the sleeper because you have the flu.

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Chinatown said: ↑

When he asked, were you in the sleeper the whole time? Start coughing without covering your mouth and tell him you stayed in the sleeper because you have the flu.
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Or you could vigorously scratch your crotch................tell him you slept in W. Memphis, he will get the picture.

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so that mean if ur in the driver seat sitting u have to be off dutty.

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Aditransport said: ↑

So I got inspected at the Cheyenne WY POE yesterday and was cited for false log because I logged "off duty" instead of "sleeper"!!! I wasn't on a load. I was in one place for almost 24 hours. He tells me that when I'm in my sleeper, I have to log sleeper time. If I get out of the truck to eat, shower, or whatever. I have to log myself off duty. Is this a joke? Can someone please shed some light on this as I've never heard of such a thing. This going to be a big hit on my CSA for something so stupid.
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Sorry! But 10 yrs and you don't know that when your in the sleeper, you must log your in the sleeper?

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Aditransport said: ↑

Thing is, he didn't give me a ticket or put me out of service. He put it on the inspection report with the violation code number. I'm an owner operator so it will probably just jack up my CSA score. Requesting a review will probably be pointless seeing as how it will be reviewed by the issuing officer anyway.
He was telling me how he was a truck driver for 20 years before he became a Nazi cop. I'm thinking BS on that too. I will try a data q review and see what happens. I just can't see how they can justify having to log sleeper time when you are not under a dispatch or a load and are truly off duty. Do I have to log sleeper time when I'm at home in my bed too? It's just ridiculous.
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At home in your bed, is not in your truck, WOW can't believe this is so hard to understand

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i cant believe so many people are drinking the koolaid
these people saying log it like you do it
better not ever get up have a smoke during their mandatory 8 sleeper break
or they can start all over

I go thru the Cheyenne and Evanston POE every week
never asked for anything other then my permit book and product
never even asked for BOL
I must look honest

I did offer them a donation so they could get more green lights for the open sign

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DOT: I see you were logged off duty.

me: yep.

DOT: where did you go, what did you do? Where did you sleep?

me: I was off duty. Can I go now?

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