Logging off duty while loading/unloading

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  1. strannyd

    strannyd Bobtail Member

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    Best thing to do is to stay on duty not driving why your trailer is being loaded or unloading. And if you're sitting at the shipper and you're truly not tired and not able to sleep I would not put down that you're in The Sleeper Berth. Because say you're there for 10 hours and during that 10 hours you put Sleeper Berth but now you've actually been awake for 20 hours straight and you finally get your trailer loaded then when you tell your company you need some sleep you're too tired to drive they're going to say who you been in the Sleeper Berth for 10 hours sleeping. Better to just go by the rules put on duty not driving and then when these companies see actually how long the shippers are taking and now you actually have to take your 10-hour break so you can get rest and not drive fatigued maybe things will change. But even if they don't change at least you will be driving well-rested and not a danger to yourself or to the General Public.
     
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  3. Bean Jr.

    Bean Jr. Road Train Member

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    You mean to say that if I'm tired, but I have the hours to drive, I must drive?

    Or are you saying "seeing as some drivers only sleep 6 hours, you should log it so you'll need an additional 4 hours before you can roll"?

    Or are you suggesting that we should burn up 10 of our 70 hours for nothing?

    If one wants to be a stickler, and hold that you can't be off duty if you're on the dock, that's one thing, but not to log at least sleeper berth if you're in the sleeper is foolish!
     
  4. HotH2o

    HotH2o Road Train Member

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    Wrong. You can work (on Duty) 24 hours straight if you want. You cannot drive again until you’ve had 10 hours off Duty/sleeper birth and have time left on your 70.
     
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  5. Bean Jr.

    Bean Jr. Road Train Member

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    Here's another thing that people don't get; if the truck is on private property, the regulations don't apply. Overweight? Lights not working? Heck, no registration? No violations on private property. Pull out on the street, then everything changes.
     
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  6. kemosabi49

    kemosabi49 Trucker Forum STAFF Staff Member

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    Hours of service regs apply whether on private property or on the road.
     
  7. ZVar

    ZVar Road Train Member

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    Yes and no.
    If you are 100% on private property then fmcsa including hos does not apply. Now if you are on private property then go on public roads the time on private property counts

    Question 16:

    a. Are vehicles which, in the course of interstate transportation over the highway, are off the highway, loading, unloading or waiting, subject to the FMCSRs during these times?

    b. Are vehicles and drivers used wholly within terminals and on premises or plant sites subject to the FMCSRs?

    Guidance:

    a. Yes.

    b. No.
     
  8. strannyd

    strannyd Bobtail Member

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    Yes if you're truly in The Sleeper Berth sleeping that's one thing. But if you're not sleeping and getting actual rest and you've been up for 15 to 20 hours and then expected to drive 10 hours and you're okay with that to me that would be foolish.
     
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  9. Bean Jr.

    Bean Jr. Road Train Member

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    You need not be asleep to log sleeper. You must be in the sleeper though.

    As far as driving, I think I made it quite clear that if I am tired, having hours available does not mean I must drive.
     
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  10. Bean Jr.

    Bean Jr. Road Train Member

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    Once again, it only matters regarding driving. Run out of 14 hours, you can do whatever you want to do besides drive a truck.
     
  11. spyder7723

    spyder7723 Road Train Member

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    Some off those responses i found to be pretty funny. It's like these guys think you must drive if the logbook says you can.
     
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