logging questions

That was my point! It doesn't matter if he is an owner op or not!

If he is working on that truck (most owner operators will do, not company drivers) it would be line 4!

The driving time to the part store I would say regardless is off duty and regardless would not be driving!

Seriously I asked DOT if an owner operator fueled his truck on his time off if he could log it as off duty (as I was letting them do) he said NO! That driver is fueling the truck to get in readiness to work possibly. Then he said it's just like a driver working on his truck at home that would be line 4.

Now "I hate to post this, but I will" who would really know? Well you could tell on yourself, or receipts ??? Not sure how except more telling on yourself.

But yeah I was suprised to his response to this myself.

 

Many drivers, company or owner/operator, park the rig at the house. While at the house the windows might get cleaned, the bunk straightened out, or, maybe a complete wash occurs. Who even considers logging that as on duty? Not me, or 99.9% of the other drivers. However, technically speaking, that is line 4 activity.

My philosophy is, don't ask, don't tell.

I suppose doing actual repairs is even a stronger case for using line 4, but again, unless the diesel bear is standing there looking at me, the time don't exist.

 

She has never driven a truck, so it is hard for her to realize all that is involved.

 

But as I said that is the regulations and that's what I must tell here!

They "should" be logging it on line 4 and hence why I said what I said in the end Same page I think!

But I wouldn't want a driver working on his truck all day and getting dispatched and thinking he is legal either! Because actually he would be a danger to you and I

 

Honey: As I tell many drivers! I don't have to drive a truck to understand how it works. I have been doing this for 20 years and I know what you go through and I know why you do what you do!

You should also work in log department to understand what we go through and why we preach what we do.

Do you know how many drivers worked in my department and did light duty due to an injury and when they left that department they had a total different understanding of the log department and filling out their log sheets!

So it goes both ways!

I say what I state to protect drivers and to make my life easier when dealing with drivers (hoping they are logging what they should be so I dont have to put them on a corrective action and make their day worse).


I usually only discuss what DOT requires, therefore it also will save you a little money in the pocket if you know what the regulations are!

No punt intended here, it's all fun and games until someone's eye gets typed on!

 

Cleaning the truck would be more like "housework" it's not something that has to be done to get in readiness to work. You don't have to wash the truck to get a load or clean the windows (although I wish many would keep their truck clean).

Get the drift here! Repairing the truck is doing something to get the truck in "readiness to work" this is how it was explained to me by DOT. I was astouned by it as well!

But now a days we don't have a trucker using their truck to drive to florida for vacation due to the fuel prices

 

If you have been doing this for 20 years, then you know and understand that HOS is a joke to all companies. They only want you to log as legal as they require, and each company is different.

The companies that are taking the HOS to the extreme, are the ones that have been burnt in the legal system. Until they were burnt, they didn't have a care in the world about HOS.

Mark