Logging within 50 mile radius

Discussion in 'Trucking Industry Regulations' started by snowman01, Nov 22, 2012.

  1. snowman01

    snowman01 Road Train Member

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    One of my bosses just came out with something that I have never heard of and I wanted to know if anyone else has heard of this.

    The mill that we pull out of as a dedicated fleet has a warehouse 12 miles away in another town. We pick up a load at the mill, take it to the warehouse and sometimes bring back an empty trailer and other times bobtail. I always put 15 min down, 15 drop and hook and 15 back for a total of 45 min. Often we will do 2 of these loads back to back and some days 3 or 4. I am aware that if you have multiple drops in the same city you can log it all on line 4. I am also aware of the 100 air mile rule if you return to the terminal every day. My boss just told me that since this location is within 50 miles I can log it on line 4 even if I then take a load 200 miles out.

    Anyone heard of a 50 mile rule? Sounds kinda fishy to me and I didn't take him up on it.
     
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  3. ralph

    ralph Road Train Member

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    No such thing>Ask your boss to SHOW you the rule in the "GreenBook".
     
  4. SierraSemiDriver

    SierraSemiDriver Light Load Member

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    Never heard of a 50-mile rue. I've logged trips like that just like you did
     
  5. GoneButNotForgotten

    GoneButNotForgotten Heavy Load Member

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    Maybe it is something like the 10 second rule when you drop food on the floor!:biggrin_25523:
     
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  6. snowwy

    snowwy Road Train Member

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    there's no such rule. you don't need a log PERIOD unless your working over 12 hours or driving OUT of the 100 mile radius.
     
  7. snowman01

    snowman01 Road Train Member

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    When I worked a yard truck I was on the clock by the hour. I would run a load within the hundred miles and get paid mileage for the load. I still did the logs although the company told me I didnt have to because I thought they were wrong on this point. You are either on the clock or not imho and I wasn't interested in getting into a peeing match at a scale with DOT on this point.
     
  8. snowman01

    snowman01 Road Train Member

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    Exactly. Seems like one of those urban myths that pop up from time to time.
     
  9. mjfmjf

    mjfmjf Light Load Member

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    Straight from the FMCSA ...


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  10. snowwy

    snowwy Road Train Member

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    how about the regs that pertain to the 100 mile radius???? and don't require duty status. only a time card.
     
  11. snowwy

    snowwy Road Train Member

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    why would you get into a pissing contest????

    i hauled dirt one time. 2 loads of dirt per day. 650 miles was the total driven for the day. from leaving yard to arriving back to yard. 90 mile radius. about 15 miles from the dirt load site is a scale. got pulled in one time for a windshield crack. gave me a fix it ticket.

    he asked for logs. and i told him i don't have any logs. end of discussion.
     
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