Longest Live Load/Unload? Can u top this?

Discussion in 'Shippers & Receivers - Good or Bad' started by shaken, Dec 22, 2006.

  1. Raezzor

    Raezzor Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?

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    Heh I had something similar happen at the sub base in King's Bay, GA. Took the headstock of a huge lathe down there. Rest of the lathe was on 2 other trucks that got there before me. Show up bright and early, took 2 hours just to get past security and the x-ray. 0930 I get to the building with the overhead crane. "Uh, driver, it turns out the overhead crane can only support 35k lbs, not the 50k we were told, so we're gonna try to get the portable crane up here but it's down at the water doing some stuff."

    Sat till 1700 that afternoon when they said they were giving up. They let me back the trailer into the building though, which was nice since I had already untarped it. Bobtailed over to the truck stop at the same exit and got a good night's sleep. Back over at the building by 0900. Sat there again until 1300 when they said they are giving up on the crane and were gonna use 2 fork lifts to take it off. They lifted it about 5 inches off my deck and had me pull out from under it, then set it on the the ground. Handed me my bills and I got outta dodge before they broke something. :)
     
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  3. Miss Sass

    Miss Sass Light Load Member

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    Atlantic Kraft in Boston piece of crap plant if I ever saw one. Was dispatched late with no hours but DM said theyd reschedule so I ran it anyway. Well my aptmt was for 5pm originally and it was supposed to be moved to 3am next morn. Well surprise! Got there at midnight thinking I made good time. The security guard at gate was yelling at me and cussing because Im late and was supposed to be there at 5pm blah, blah, blah. Made me wait for shift change, then the next guard made me wait another 16 hours to get into dock which was in a alley, blind side dock with crap everywhere laying around. So of course takes his sweet ### time unloading me I run out of time and have to sleep there with no bathrooms, showers, or any kind of respect. Needless to say Ill not be returning there. I won't even eat Kraft foods now because I was so livid.
     
  4. Miss Sass

    Miss Sass Light Load Member

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    That Tyson in Olathe, KS is the absolute worst. Grrrrrr. Had me wait 27 hrs once. Never again!!
     
  5. producelove85

    producelove85 Light Load Member

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    I would have told the company to **** itself...ummm...300 per day plus food expenses...I have gotten smart over the years...you pay or I pay with your fuel for a personal vacation on the open highway...I have done it! That is the open highway vacation. Fill up the truck and then tell dispatch pay or pay in fuel...they opted to pay in fuel
     
  6. aztrucker89

    aztrucker89 Light Load Member

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    I have 2. one was in Washington DC when I was driving team for covenant. we showed up Monday morning at 5am (our appointment was at 630am). they didn't have any record of ANY deliveries from ANY company until the next day. we sat in the parking lot from 5am Monday morning until Friday night at 8pm when another driver showed up to sit with the load since it was "high security". if it was so "high security" then why the #### did nobody know it was coming? second was in san jose when I hauled flatbed for Roehl, I showed up to pick up some cast iron pipes at 6am, I was sent to the loading area and I sat there from 630am Tuesday until 7am Wednesday. their system went down and they weren't authorized (supposedly) to give me a handwritten ticket.
     
  7. omarthebear

    omarthebear Light Load Member

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  8. producelove85

    producelove85 Light Load Member

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    [FONT=Times New Roman,serif][FONT=Calibri,sans-serif]This is the response I received from OOIDA this morning about striking....no one has our back!
    Ryan,
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    [FONT=Times New Roman,serif][FONT=Calibri,sans-serif]We can understand your concerns and frustrations and we share them. Unfortunately, the laws in the United States are very different than Brazil when it comes to strikes. As a trade association, we are bound by federal laws that prevent us from organizing such an effort. The strike in Brazil was led by a union and it is not truly known how successfully it has been. Also, what we have found throughout the years is that it is ineffective in the long term. Once the media cameras and lights turn off and go home, it’s back to business as usual with no meaningful changes having taken place. [/FONT][/FONT]
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    [FONT=Times New Roman,serif][FONT=Calibri,sans-serif]Because our members are small business owners, we certainly support their decisions in how they run their businesses, whether they are operating or taking a well-deserved vacation if you will. But we also are not in a position to tell them how to run their businesses day to day because of that same reasoning. I think it’s fair to say there is a reason they are called independent.[/FONT][/FONT]
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    [FONT=Times New Roman,serif][FONT=Calibri,sans-serif]Please take note of our safety agenda that we recently launched. We believe it’s time for training standards and other issues to move forward and we are asking Congress and the FMCSA to help us push these agendas forward. It would be most appreciated if you would help us with this effort by signing up for our Call to Action alerts on this issue, which you can do at the website.[/FONT][/FONT]
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    [FONT=Times New Roman,serif][FONT=Calibri,sans-serif]Thanks again for sharing your story and thank you for your service to our country. [/FONT][/FONT]
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    [FONT=Times New Roman,serif][FONT=Calibri,sans-serif]www.truckersforsafety.com[/FONT][/FONT]
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    [FONT=Times New Roman,serif][FONT=Calibri,sans-serif]Norita Taylor, APR[/FONT][/FONT]
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    [FONT=Times New Roman,serif][FONT=Calibri,sans-serif]Owner-Operator Independent Drivers Association[/FONT][/FONT]
    [FONT=Times New Roman,serif][FONT=Calibri,sans-serif]816-229-5791[/FONT][/FONT]
    [FONT=Times New Roman,serif][FONT=Calibri,sans-serif]http://www.ooidatruckshow.com/[/FONT][FONT=Calibri,sans-serif] [/FONT][/FONT]
     
  9. omarthebear

    omarthebear Light Load Member

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    Boilerplate corporate double talk, who said anything about Brazil...
     
  10. passingtrucker

    passingtrucker Light Load Member

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    The response from OOIDA pretty much summarizes the reason OTR drivers are suffering both economic and rampant abusive work conditions. First, truckers did away with the Teamsters following the Jimmy Hoffa scandal when news reported the Teamsters purported to have given money to organize crime to fund the construction of casinos in Las Vegas and Reno in the 1970s. The news gave false data; it was in fact a loan. Back in the 1970s, casinos tried to gather investment funds for construction by issuing stocks and bonds, which were not selling well because of religious attitude (remember Jesus Christ had broken up a gambling operation inside a temple of worship?). The Teamsters got their money back with interest, but the damage had been done. Across the country, truckers believed the Teamsters and organized crime were one and the same. This is why to this day, veteran old timers refer to unions and Teamsters as "communist." The ideals of socialist government sounded good on paper, but the leaders of communist government later became corrupt themselves, so Teamsters became synonymous with "communist."

    The 2nd is the federal government; DOT has become a fully captured agency. In theory, DOT is suppose to look out for the safety and economic interest of the public and truckers. When DOT was first created in 1967, its prime mission was public safety and the interest of national security. Effective lobbying by the retail marketing industries and manufacturing industries gradually changed these ideals by having former company CEOs take the top positions of DOT. When this was achieved, it became an agency that protects the profit interest of industries. They argue that strong industries mean stable employment and economic strength for the nation. They disregard the number of truck accidents resulting from tired fatigued truckers working long hours to make a delivery deadline schedule. They disregard the adverse effects of mileage pay, which forces truckers to falsify logbooks (under report actual hours driven and delays at docks) to earn a decent income. This conflict of interest between safety and profit interest was a contributing factor to creating the Dept. of Homeland Security in 2002.

    The 3rd and final reason why OTR truckers are suffering is the psyche (mental thinking) of warehouse management. I'm currently taking classes to earn a degree in logistics and supply chain management. My studies include the principles of efficient warehousing. At the college level, we're thought to schedule a 3 to 2 or 5 to 3 ratio of warehouse staff to receive trucks versus the number of trucks that are scheduled to arrive. The general ASSUMPTION is, at least one truck will arrive an hour late or won't show up at all because of accidents or mechanical failure. On a 3:2 ratio schedule, for every 10 trucks scheduled to arrive, you schedule 6 or 7 warehouse forklift operators to unload those trucks. On 5:3 ratio scheduling, for every 10 trucks scheduled to arrive, you schedule 5 or 6 forklift operators to receive the trucks. The primary objective is not to have any forklift operator standing idle with nothing to do; he or she must be constantly working unless its his/her break time. The next time you pickup or deliver a load, go to the employees' break room where they take their half hour meal break and look at the employees' bulletin board. You'll see a productivity chart of how many tons or pallets had been moved by each forklift operator. In order to accurately calculate this data, forklift drivers have to be constantly moving products. This tonnage per day or pallets per day data sheet is why there's less warehouse staff to load and unload the trucks. Most companies will not agree to having a carrier stipulate dock delay on their contract, or at least we've been told at the classroom lecture to avoid trucking companies who stipulate monetary compensation of truckers for dock delay. The only time we accept terms of dock delay pay is when we don't have a choice; meaning every trucking company we call up stipulates dock delay pay after 2 hours.

    Until all OTR truckers agree to bringing back the Teamsters, your only option to quit OTR and become an hourly paid local driver to improve your lives. If you try to unionize, I must warn you that at the college level, they teach us how to break up efforts to unionize. We're told to identify anyone who's likely going to vote "yes" on unionizing, then terminate these people for the most minor violations. If they deliver or arrive at the shipper one minute late, they're fired. If logbooks are off, they're fired for falsifying records. If they raise the tone of their voice while talking to dispatch, they're fired for insubordination. When a company is at risk of becoming unionize, the objective is terminate pro union employees and replace them with people who will vote "no" on unionizing.


    On top of the colleges teaching "Union Busting 101," there's the news media that will give false report to villify the union. In past news reports of labor dispute, they would claim the union wants a 15 percent raise, but they fail to mention the contract is asking for a 3 percent annual raise to reflect inflation and cost-of-living increase, which comes out to 15 percent spread out over 5 years. By claiming "...union wants 15 percent raise..." they portray the union as bullies intent on eventually putting the company out of business. News organizations are private for-profit entities. You don't excel to become the news editor unless you have anti union attitudes. The position of "news editor" is made by the CEO and must be approved by the board of directors. Thus, it is the DUTY of news editor to villify the union and NEVER report anything positive about the union. This is why when the Teamsters engage in community efforts, like helping the homeless or giving free job training, you never read about it in the news. The news editor can get fired for publishing a positive news report involving a union.
     
    stayinback Thanks this.
  11. Infosaur

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    Funny that you claim colleges teach "Union Busting 101" (MBA curriculum?)
    But the biggest union in the country these days is the Teachers Union. (and the public employees union)

    Well, in the new world order, we won't have bread on the shelves in Wal-mart, but they'll still be well compensated teachers.
     
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