Looking for advice from current owner operators.

Discussion in 'Ask An Owner Operator' started by BULLPUP, May 19, 2014.

  1. BULLPUP

    BULLPUP Bobtail Member

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    I am getting ready to buy a 2000 fl80 extra cab truck with 200,000 miles, a 24 ft box, lift gate and a 3126 cat motor with a fuller 9 speed.This truck is in great shape mechanically and the tires are 90%. The truck has passed a level 1 inspection within the last three months, Indiana, with no violations.I need some experienced guys opinions on what i am about to do so here goes.The truck is going to cost 10,000. I have been running for an expedite service and they are paying an average of 1.50 all miles loaded and empty running solo I am averaging about 2600 to 3000 miles a week. The company has a base plate program and their weekly expenses are as follows 35 qualcom, 33 insurance, 35 workers comp and 50 for the plate, total 153.00 per week.I think i can make decent money doing this, am i missing something? the 1.50 per mile is all miles and does include the fuel surcharge money.One last question, the extra cab is set up as a sleeper, will this fly with the DOT?
     
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  3. gokiddogo

    gokiddogo Road Train Member

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    What is your gross income now and what do you expect it to be if you are driving your own truck?
     
  4. BULLPUP

    BULLPUP Bobtail Member

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    I drive for a fleet owner now who is leased on to the company I am going to lease on to.
    I take 40% of the line haul pay for each load which pays me between 1000 and 1200 per week.
    The numbers in my origional post are the ones that I need some advice on. I failed to include the 160.00 oer week truck payment.

    Basically my fixed expense will be 313 per week. I can average 2600 to 3000 miles at 1.50 per mile which is
    3900 per week gross. Deduct fuel which is 1223. And fixed expense 313 and I get 2363 per week net. Out of this comes maintence and my pay.
    What am I missing? The numbers look too good to me.
     
  5. Ed MacLane

    Ed MacLane Light Load Member

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    You have all the numbers to answer your own question to have a rough estimate of how much you can expect to make. With the numbers you provided it looks like you should expect to clear around $60k to $80k (not including truck payment or maintenance) depending on how many weeks you drive and what your fuel mileage is. A general rule of thumb for estimating profit (take home pay) for trucking is take your gross revenue and divide by two. This assumes half of what you make will be expense (including fuel). Another rough estimate is to divide by three to account for income tax. So gross revenue divided by three would be your approximate take home pay after income taxes. However, neither of these two estimates take equipment payments into account. So if you have a truck payment or other equipment payment to make then that will further decrease your earnings for as long as you have that payment.
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    Sleepers are covered in 393.76
     
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  6. BULLPUP

    BULLPUP Bobtail Member

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    Ok here is my conservative numbers calculation.

    2000 miles ×1.50 = 3000.00 gross
    Deduct 941 for fuel .. 8.5 mpg @ 4.00 per gallon
    Deduct 320 for fixed expense,plates,qualcom,workers comp,and company provided insurance.
    I get 1739 net per week..BEFORE TAX..
    any one have a cost per mile maintenence figure ?
     
  7. Ed MacLane

    Ed MacLane Light Load Member

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    For an old truck I think many people use around 8 to 10 cents per mile for maintenance. I'd plan on around $10,000 to $15,000 per year for maintenance. It's better to budget for it and not use it and end up with unexpected profits then to not budget for it and come up short.
     
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  8. BULLPUP

    BULLPUP Bobtail Member

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    Thanks Ed
    The truck has 240,000 miles on it and has been driven once a week yo keep it limber since it was parked. I think that just starting out on my own a older low mileage truck is the way to go. All my numbers work and would be excellent if the Feds did not want their 33% piece of the pie!
    I would really appreciate other comments from current oowner ops as to what I have going on.
     
  9. Bakerman

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    Save your money for a new engine!! We had 2 of those 3126 engines, sold one truck and scrapped the other. We got about 350,000 on the one we scrapped, driver got it hot and cracked the block.
    No liners in this engine, so if you want to rebuild it has to be sleeved. Cummins 5.9 is the same, my mechanic calls them throw away engines, because you throw them away and get another one.

    If you are the only one driving, just be real meticulous on your maintenance. We had 3 different drivers go through the truck we had, and I think that was the major problem.

    I think you can get at least 500,000 miles out of it before it needs something major.

    Look into the International trucks with the DT466, they have liners just like the big trucks and there are millions of them out there.

    You can easily have this truck paid off in a year or less, then I would: #1 sell it #2 trade for Int'l or #3 put a driver in it while you run your new truck.

    Good luck and have fun!!
     
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