Looking for an air chamber hose

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  1. Hanadarko

    Hanadarko Independent Owner/Operator

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    Ok..this is good. Thanks.
    However, the original fittings are SEIZED to the old hose.
    I got one out and noticed it was installed with RED Loctite. I mean who does this?
    In removing it, I actually got a nice pile of brass dust.

    I was told never to apply anything to anything flare....

    The photo above I cannot separate the 1/4" MPT fitting from the line and the rest of the lines I want to replace are equally seized.

    Do you know what they call these fittings I need? (something-to-1/4" MPT)
     
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  3. Taildragon

    Taildragon Heavy Load Member

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    All of the semi trailer dealerships stock these assemblies, in both 3/8" and 1/2" I.D. and they are not expensive at all. They stock the hose as well, and you can buy it in bulk lengths and save money if you have several trucks, the hose is not very expensive either. If you will check with any of your local trailer dealerships you will usually find that they run a parts truck to your area weekly as well. All OEM and generic air brake system components are available and usually in stock at the dealerships, I have always found them to be tremendously cheaper than the truck dealerships. If you can catch them when they have them in stock, they will give you a parts catalog, once you start looking through them you will be shocked what they stock and sell daily. If you have a parts catalog in hand, you can identify most all common air brake system valves and parts on tractors or trailers by the picture, and call them to get a price using the actual name and part number. You can also call around and check prices once you have the OEM part number. I have rarely found a truck dealership that can match the pricing of the trailer dealerships.
     
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  4. bender

    bender Road Train Member

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    You can free the fitting from the hose with heat (torch).
    Yeah, locktite isn't necessary or desirable.
    I don't know the official name for the fitting. I call it a brake hose swivel end fitting, but I'm sure that's not the official name. I haven't seen them offered separately, you have to buy the hose to get them.
     
  5. Hanadarko

    Hanadarko Independent Owner/Operator

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    Well I costed this out....the cheapest thing for me to do is buy several of the 1/4 fitted hoses and the 3/8 hoses I need and steal the adapters off the 1/4 hoses and use them on the 3/8 hoses. I need a 3/8" male NPT end since the 1/4" ends cannot be re-used at this stage.

    Seems lame to do that just to get an end screw-in fitting - but each hose is $6 and I cant see a single fitting being too much cheaper over all.
     
  6. bender

    bender Road Train Member

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    You could do that or like Taildragon said, make a visit to your local tractor trailer supply parts house show them what you have and need and often they will fix you right up for cheap, they aim to please! They can switch fittings on hoses in stock to make what you need, I've done it a thousand times.
     
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  7. Taildragon

    Taildragon Heavy Load Member

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    I only had a few minutes before I had to leave, when I posted earlier.

    This is what you have pictures of, click this link and go halfway down the page and look under "Reusable Air Brake Hose Fittings"

    http://www.newlifeparts.com/newlife/catalog/nl/nl_section_2.pdf

    These fittings were always my choice because they are reusable and cheaper, if you need to replace a hose, all you need is a new ferrell on each end, usually about ten cents each, and the length of hose, the complete fitting, (three pieces), is usually about two to four dollars whether 3/8" or 1/2".


    Below are links to various Trailer OEM parts catalogs.

    http://www.newlifeparts.com/newlife/catalog/nl/

    http://www.auroraparts.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=5&Itemid=10

    http://www.utilitytrailer.com/parts/line-card

    http://ww2.greatdanetrailers.com/partscatalog/index.asp

    Now bare in mind that if you have a paper back copy of these catalogs they work a lot better, and are better organized, with more parts listed. I hope this helps.
     
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  8. windsmith

    windsmith Road Train Member

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    Sometimes it's more cost effective to spend an extra $15 for a part that works than to spend a few hours trying to track down a cheaper alternative. Just saying.
     
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  9. Longhood379

    Longhood379 Medium Load Member

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    If you buy 1 3/8 hose and 1 1/4 hose you can swap the swivel fittings and end up with both hose 1/4 &3/8, if you can use the stiff end in the 1/4 port. I always use anti seaze on swivel fitting threads.
     
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  10. Taildragon

    Taildragon Heavy Load Member

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    I just realized that you had posted this between my posts. This is a different fitting than I thought you wanted, these are steel, they are rarely reusable because they always seize up. I always switched them over to the fittings that I posted about earlier which are brass, they rarely seize up, the parts are all interchangeable, and you eliminate the need for a swivel when you use them, they are available with or without the spring hose support to strenghten the joint, for a gladhand application perhaps. One last note, if my memory serves me correctly, the hose used with the steel fittings in the photo above that crimp on to the hose, is not compatable with the standard 3/8" air brake hose, I could be wrong, but I think I ran in to that once while trying to reuse a section of it, much simpler and cheaper to change over to the reusable brass fittings and standard air brake hose. No part of these style fittings are interchangable with the brass fittings.
     
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  11. Hanadarko

    Hanadarko Independent Owner/Operator

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    Yes I could use the stiff 1/4" end....I like this idea and the best part is I know it will work.
    I was disappointed to see that what I need isn't available "out of the box" and dont quite understand why
    they use 3/8" line...hoses and fittings at the brake chamber, yet on the wall of the trailer, the fittings are only 1/4" npt.

    If they used 3/8" all the way around, thats the most common 31" hose out there..

    :biggrin_25513:
     
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