Looking to buy my first truck for hauling coal, looking at 09 western-star dd15

Discussion in 'Ask An Owner Operator' started by Fast04gt, Apr 2, 2014.

  1. Fast04gt

    Fast04gt Light Load Member

    70
    12
    Mar 15, 2014
    0
    I'm looking at buying a 2009 western star day cab with a Detroit 515 hp in it. I don't know much about Detroit engines. I know this engine will have the dpf on it because it being a 09. It has 230,000 miles on it and got a new engine at 104,000 miles.Truck is spec'd for heavy hauls because I'll be grossing 126,000. I also found a 2012 kenworth with a cummins isx with 500 hp with 60,000 miles that costs more. This truck has the def system on it. Also spec'd for heavy haul. Which engine would be better and are the problems with the dpf too much for a starter to deal with? Also mpg's on these engines. Thanks
     
  2. Truckers Report Jobs

    Trucking Jobs in 30 seconds

    Every month 400 people find a job with the help of TruckersReport.

  3. dynogt16

    dynogt16 Light Load Member

    161
    24
    May 4, 2010
    Princeton, Indiana
    0
    Coal is a bad idea. Coal has metal in it ruins seals. Also 126000 lbs unless u got deep pockets and a heavy haul triaxle tractor don't do it. Here in indiana with own authority and permits guys average 1.35 a mile roughly. Paid by the ton isn't good at all. At 126000lbs fuel mileage is out the door.
     
  4. dynogt16

    dynogt16 Light Load Member

    161
    24
    May 4, 2010
    Princeton, Indiana
    0
    I just bought a truck. I considered coal and looking at landstar now. Cause pen to paper coal haulers mostly newbies last 2yrs.
     
    baha Thanks this.
  5. Fast04gt

    Fast04gt Light Load Member

    70
    12
    Mar 15, 2014
    0
    Well, what would be better?
     
  6. Oscar the KW

    Oscar the KW Going Tarpless

    12,246
    28,116
    May 19, 2011
    0
    Personally, if I had to pick between those two trucks, I would pick the KW with the Cummins. Reason being, I like KW the best, and I think that the Cummins will pull better than the Detroit. As far as fuel mileage and long term durability from the engine side of things, I don't think one has anything over the other.
     
    Fast04gt Thanks this.
  7. Fast04gt

    Fast04gt Light Load Member

    70
    12
    Mar 15, 2014
    0
    Personally I like the kW too but was told the kW may be hard for me to get financed opposed to the westernstar that's a little older, but 43,000 dollars cheaper. I was trying to weigh the pros and cons to 09 Detroit with dpf to the 12 cummins that has def.
     
  8. dynogt16

    dynogt16 Light Load Member

    161
    24
    May 4, 2010
    Princeton, Indiana
    0
    My choice I'd go with western star. Not cause I own one but because I found they have room to work on them and because unless you buy a old w900 04 or older that kenworth will likely be in the shop a lot.
     
    Fast04gt Thanks this.
  9. poppapump1332

    poppapump1332 Road Train Member

    2,987
    2,465
    Jan 2, 2010
    birdsboro,pa
    0
    Id go with the cummins but for 43000 less maybe id take the western star as far as coal hauling the way the epa is killing that industry maight not be any to haul down the road.
     
    Fast04gt Thanks this.
  10. Fast04gt

    Fast04gt Light Load Member

    70
    12
    Mar 15, 2014
    0
    Lol. The EPA and other government officials sure are putting a strain on us in WV.
     
  11. rbrtwbstr

    rbrtwbstr Road Train Member

    3,374
    7,786
    Jul 11, 2012
    in the bush somewhere
    0
    The Star will likely have a slightly heavier lightweight. But if I was looking at either of these, I'd go with the Star. As another poster pointed out, hauling coal is a dirty job, and can be hard on trucks. For what its worth, the Star is going to have a more spacious cab than the KW. I run a Star daycab, and I love it, rides very nice too. We have an older W900, I've driven it, and can't seem to like it much. No leg room (i'm only 5'6" tall and 160 lbs), and the ride was way too stiff.
    The Detroit is the lesser of two evils here. Yeah it has a dpf, but the Cummins has def.
     
    Last edited by a moderator: Apr 2, 2014
    Fast04gt Thanks this.
  • Truckers Report Jobs

    Trucking Jobs in 30 seconds

    Every month 400 people find a job with the help of TruckersReport.