Looking to get my foot in the door

Discussion in 'Questions From New Drivers' started by BenW, Oct 22, 2012.

  1. BenW

    BenW Bobtail Member

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    Hey guys! First off, let me say this is an awesome site, lots of great info for trucker fans and wannabes like me. This sure looks like an awesome community and I'm sure you guys can point me in the right direction. I should start with a bit of a background. I'm 18 and I'm from Wisconsin, graduating high school this spring. Pretty professional appearance, good references, good work history, clean driving record and all the good stuff. Now mind you that my dad is a p&d driver, drove truck his whole life and has been a big influence on me quite obviously. It was my initial plan that after graduating, I would enroll in a local tech school's truck driving program but, my dad seems to think that it would best if I took a different approach. I've never asked how he got started to be quite honest but, he drove trucks on his grandfather's cattle farm from a young age and it sounds like he had enough experience that he studied up and got his cdl from that experience alone. He thinks I should take a similar path, avoid forking over my money to a school and make money working for someone who will train me in the real world.

    Most of the higher-profile operations wouldn't even consider people under 21 though because of insurance. Ideally, I'd like to start getting into a position where I can get my cdl before im 21 or shortly thereafter so I can be a little ahead of the game. I guess my question to you guys would be, what would be a good area to pursue? Looking at working for refuse collection companies like Veolia or some smaller, local companies. Veolia actually has positions for driver trainees but again, you have to be 21. However, they positions for "helpers/hangers" to ride along and help with collection and other "operator" positions which sounds like manual labor at the yard. I wonder if this is a good place to start, no positions open in my area but, something to think about.

    Reinhardt also has some positions for guys to ride along and help unload and then training positions for those 21 and up. I'm guessing my dad had some experience in this area though as he's had nothing good to say about it. But still, it's an option on the table.

    Could look into some local landscaping companies? I can deal with digging tree holes for $10 an hour but, most of them don't use trucks that would require a cdl.

    Just curious to hear what you folks think of my situation and if you have an suggestions. Would driving school be a better option? What do you think of these fields and do you have any others worth recommending? Ideally, I'd be using these jobs as stepping stones, getting my cdl and then moving on to p&d or dump truck after putting in some time. But like I said, please offer any constructive criticism or suggestions.

    Thanks,
    Ben
     
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  3. Chinatown

    Chinatown Road Train Member

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    Good post & future planning.
    You have 36 months to prepare for your CDL. There are practice tests on this site; look at the top of page. Google for more tests. Ask your father to pick up some newspapers & other literature at truckstops that are specifically for truckers, so you can start familiarizing yourself with the trucking business. All those papers & magazines are free at the truckstops. At age 21, you will be ready to enroll in a driving school & between now and your 21st birthday you will know which school is best for your paticular situation & maybe even what type of trucking interests you. Reinhardt sounds OK. It's important to show a good work history and no job hopping. Try to go with one company & stay there until you enter driving school. Best wishes.
     
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  4. Hooda

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    Whatever you do, DON'T GIVE UP!! You COULD consider the National Guard or Army Reserve, as they have driver positions open worldwide, and will give you training in any number of MOS that involve going to school to drive 18 wheelers and bigger. Just be forewarned that we ARE still at war, so it's likely that you will get deployed, but one way or another you will get real training driving real trucks, which by the way, looks EXCELLENT, no matter where you apply. Saving that option, you should still be able to get a provisional class B cdl depending on your state, which will allow you to drive dump trucks, etc. That's what I did, at age 16, I took my first driving test ever in a dump truck (ran over a curb on the last turn and failed the 1st time, passed the 2nd go with a perfect score). I had the advantage of my Dad owning an Excavating company. Anyway, that would be my suggestions to you. Start with getting that class B ASAP, Then move forward to the A when you can. Use the B to get in someplace that also operates big rigs, and work your way up. Wishing you the best of luck!
     
  5. KateL

    KateL Light Load Member

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    Drive a farm truck-- here are some of Missouri rules, other states have other rules. You need to be 18 or older. You still need to get a DOT medical. Etc.

    A CDL is generally required if;
    • Your truck is over 26,000 lbs gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR), or
    • Is used in combination with a trailer for a gross combination weight rating (GCWR) over 26,000 lbs., or
    • It is required to be placarded under the Hazardous Materials Transportation Act.
    However, if you strictly meet all of the following guidelines, no CDL is required.
    The farmer operating their "farm vehicle" as a "farm-vehicle-driver" are exempt from the CDL requirements if:
    1. Farmer transports their own agricultural products, farm machinery, farm supplies as a private carrier to/from their farm (Not operating as a for-hire carrier or other than farm use), and
    2. Is within 150 miles of the farmer's farm, and
    3. The driver is a farmer, family member of the farmer, or an employee of the farm, operating a farm vehicle, and
    4. Is not required to be placarded under the Hazardous Materials Transportation Act.
     
  6. jcal88

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    From my experience, most companies, if not all, big, small, good, or bad, won't hire you unless you 21. Now I'm not aware of the rules and regs of your state, but you might be able to get a provisional cdl and only run intrastate. Then when your 21 you can run interstate. You'd have to go to your local state DMV, or dps, whatever your state calls it and ask. Good luck though.
     
  7. chompi

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    Personally I would recommend putting the driving thing on the "back burner". You are still very young and have many other opportunities out there besides being a truck driver all your life. Go to school. Not truck driving school. Maybe keep the driving thing as a fall back career.

    Being 18 you will not be able to drive cross country anyway. You can get your CDL and drive in-state but not over the road. You must be 21 to drive over the road and most companies won't hire you until you are 23. By age 23 you could have already completed your full college courses and earned a BA.

    Do your dad proud and don't be a truck driver.
     
  8. Hooda

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    That's probably the best advice I've seen one member here give another. But some people (like myself) just have the BUG that makes us want to drive OTR no matter what. Heck, places like CR England and the other "starter companies" have built empires based on that fact. But what Chompi says is dead on, as far as if a guy had a BA, then went trucking for a few years, he'd have a leg up on the competition out there to start a business, or get into a trucking company at a much higher level than being a driver. Good Call!
     
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