Low Speed Shifting/Steep Grade new to 13 speed

Discussion in 'Questions From New Drivers' started by J Man, Jun 29, 2013.

  1. J Man

    J Man Medium Load Member

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    Hi guys/gals. Got a question. Most of my driving has been in 18 speeds, learned on them and love them. Other day I'm driving a 13 speed and I'm starting off on a nasty dugway (talking oilfield road so its steep). Got my RPM's up to 18 and I go to make the shift to 2nd (floating) and as soon as I let up that throttle pressure and slide out of gear my truck is stopped before the RPM's come down to 10 and I can get it back in gear. I'm used to making such quick shifts with the split gears on the 18 that I'm really feeling stupid here. I tried a few more times and finally just forced the gear change because I'm holding up a line of trucks behind me. I find a hill to practice on a few more times and I can't figure out what I'm doing. This truck has a snappy throttle anyway and even my best shifts aren't great. I feel like I'm learning to drive all over again. I asked around and most everyone else is driving 18's and didn't have any advice...so people with experience having to make full gear changes starting out on inclines can you please give me some instruction. I've heard talk of using the jake to get the RPM's down faster (or am I misunderstanding that too?) and I've also started out in 2nd to get a little more speed before the first gear change but that required slipping the clutch and lugging the motor and I don't want to make a habit of that.
     
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  3. Wanderingaimlessly

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    800 rpm gear step seems a bit much. I could be and probably am wrong. Have you tried a 500 rpm gear step? On hills I would go to 1600 rpm, up shift, dropped in the hole at 1100 rpm. Don't use the jake!
     
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  4. J Man

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    Rethinking what I said...I'll try what you said next time I'm in that truck at 16 and 11 and see what she does. I didn't realize how much driving such an easy shifting truck before had spoiled me.
     
  5. Wanderingaimlessly

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    This is what I was taught and has worked for me. Going up hill only of course. Get rpm to 1600 shift up. The rpm should be 1100 after you drop into the next highest gear while shifting a 13 speed on the low side. Splitting 5-8 at 250 rpm intervals if you needed to split all the way up.
     
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  6. J Man

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    Better luck using the clutch or floating?
     
  7. Wanderingaimlessly

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    If you are confident in floating use that. Just one less thing to think about while trying to feel that hole.
     
  8. J Man

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    Gotcha, looking forward to trying it again. I was just putting out some advice on shifting when I thought about this whole thing. Like I said, shifting an "easy" truck in the past has spoiled me.
     
  9. Wanderingaimlessly

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    You'll figure it out, just stay calm. Don't get flustered and break your equipment by forcing it. You might just have to lug along in first gear until you start to crest the hill. Hold the 1600 rpm a little longer and then try to shift up. Do not worry about holding up the trucks behind you. I know it easier said than done. Let me know how it works out for you.
     
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  10. king Q

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    Using the Jake (leaving it on) can bring down your revs quicker so it could help.
    Using the clutch can also quicken a change when the gearing steps are large.
    I however know that on some grades it is better just taking your time in the gear you are and backing off the throttle a bit till on flatter ground.
    The dinosaurs round here will know this from back when many class 8 trucks had 5 and 6 speed boxes.
     
  11. morr2fab

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    Can you drive the truck or can you not??? you have to learn for yourself. NEXT!!!
     
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