Lumping Tires On Training Time at CDL school?

Discussion in 'Trucking Schools and CDL Training Forum' started by LateNightCable, Apr 23, 2019.

  1. JohnBoy

    JohnBoy Road Train Member

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    No lumping of ANY kind for this princess. After 41 years of this crap I’ve done my share. You want it on the trailer? Hire someone. Off? Hire someone. I’m at the end of this insanity, that freight isn’t that important to me.
     
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  3. bryan21384

    bryan21384 Road Train Member

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    The way I see it is that its job training. That wasn't had work. In fact, if you pull dry van, on e you get assigned your truck, you will probably pull tires. You will also unload an entire trailer of tires. You will have to throw them off to the folks at the customer. Dont make a big deal out of this. Look at it as exercise and training because you will have to unload your own trailer, and it ain't guaranteed you'll get additional pay. Sometimes you have to do what you gotta do to get your next load.
     
  4. bryan21384

    bryan21384 Road Train Member

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    So how should you be compensated for 20-30 minutes of work? Is this really worth making noise about?
     
  5. x1Heavy

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    There is a certain mindset I have and it's not for everyone. Kids in school get into minimum wage fast food or something mindless. They don't learn anything or do anything that matters in such a place. A form of paid daycare.

    With that said, your school has workers, they lump tires. Your school has students THEY STAY in the truck at the yard or on the street or in the class room learning. telling the students that no lumping no driving is flat BS to me. Not acceptable. The students do not do work on school property. They are there as paying learners of CDL trucking.

    The school has to find someone on staff to move those tires. If no one in staff roster will move tires, then you hire someone to do that or get a moving company involved with Mr Pianos to show up and move those tires for a fee. Im betting you have people on the staff who would do anything to get out of actually moving tires. Fire them and find people that will work in your school so your students will focus on learning the big rigs.

    Back to me. Lumping is part of trucking, it is what I spent most of my life doing because that is what they trained me to do after I had my CDL and got a load to say Hunts Point that has 48000 pounds of Country Crock Butter that is coming out of there by hand. I am it. In a few hours its out.

    Now if I find a 21 year old fit, strong and has a good spine wanting to be a princess and refuse to lift a finger in lumping the trailer situation? Well that would limit employment for them.

    I am damaged in some ways, and that's why I don't always come across very well in some things trucking. I have the bones and spine of a 80 year old but if you needed that butter moved, let's get started already we are late.

    I am not the retiring kind. if I did I would be dead in a week sitting home wondering what I should do.

    My trucking school in the 80's had good people for everything. Never once did we hear get in there and lump those tires. Nope. All we heard was lessons related to learning the class A back then. That was a good school. One day a few years later they closed up abruptly. Ok fine has something to do with money. Always is.

    I like to take a particular thought, write one time and leave it be. However I did not miss the point just yet. Which is why I needed to come back and make a federal case of this problem along with most everyone else.

    Those students are going to be lumping after they get hired and have a load that needs it. Probably to Associated Grocers in St Louis at 3 am. I hope they brought breakfast with them. It will be past lunch before they get done.
     
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  6. brsims

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    If I am paying a school for an education or training, I am NOT performing additional hard physical labor. That instructor would have had a fine opportunity to inspect my middle finger as I walked off to discuss the situation with his boss. If that didn't work, plenty of other CDL ripoff schools available.
     
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  7. Milr72

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    Hasn't driven or lumped in 10 years!
     
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  8. buddyd157

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    please show me and the others here, where it states in his school's lesson plan? (also KNOWN as a **syllabus)

    i had been to trucking school, long before the CDL ever was a glimmer in the eye's of the no-minds in Washington, DC, and never was it it my school's lesson plans to unload or load up a trailer.

    that part of the learning process is DONE ON THE JOB.....PERIOD.

    how responsible would the school be had either student gotten hurt..?? i'd say at this point and time, 1000% , so much so that a lawsuit would most likely get local news to the point of everyone else joining a class action suit against them.

    THIS IS A BIG DEAL, as much as the ONE TIME, i went on a road test many years ago, which the tester had me back into a loading dock to be loaded up. i flat out told him, "good bye", and i walked away, back to my pick up truck and drove off.....(it was only about a 1/2 mile away).......that'll be the day when i am put to work, during a stupid road test...what if i had gotten hurt, and here i was...NOT AN EMPLOYEE...????

    screw that crap, and screw that school's instructors......they HAD NO BUSINESS ORDERING the students to WORK A TRAILER.....

    **syllabus..........Sylabus

    1. An outline or a summary of the main points of a text, lecture, or course of study.
     
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  9. buddyd157

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    wait till you hit 48 like i did.....

    but my former job, i did lump freight. it was ok for me, i had an electric pallet jack, and no one timing me at my stops, as the buildings were closed, and we guys had the keys and alarm codes. i knew it when i went into it, and frankly, it wasn't bad, especially when most of my trailer loads was well under 15,000 pounds.

    but had the trailer loads been the usual 40,000 lbs, then oh yeah...no way i;d have touch that freight.
     
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  10. austinmike

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    My trainer at my first gig said he had to unload a bunch of tires one time. It wasn’t a usual occurrence. Said trainee refused to help. Said it about killed him lol /

    It’s truly amazing the things people will do just because the boss says do it.

    I started using the N word at my last gig when they wanted me to do something idiotic - NO
     
  11. tarmadilo

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    It’s bad enough that most trucking schools only teach what’s needed to pass the test for the Class A. Aside from identifying it during the pretrip inspection, we never touched the fifth wheel, never dropped or hooked a trailer, never slid tandems, heck, we didn’t even practice dock parking. And with several students to each truck, we did a lot more standing around watching than actually driving the truck!
     
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