Anecdotal experience is the first to be discounted when examining empirical evidence and data. Your personal experience means little compared to real world data. Gateway drug? Try cigarettes and alcohol. Using your personal data and logic, since I drank milk first before smoking cigarettes and drinking alcohol as a kid, the milk was the real gateway substance followed by alcohol then tobacco. I burned the herb but never played with anything stronger so please don't use your personal observances as proof of what constitutes a gateway substance because one shoe doesn't fit all and you're simply regurgitating what you've read and heard throughout the years by propagandists of the drug hysteria war.
Your position as an EMT predisposed you to prejudge as you've been exposed to the worst. What about the thousands, if not millions, of white-collar (and blue-collar) workers who go to work everyday and perform their jobs just fine and continue to smoke with zero repercussions and problems? These people don't wear their smoking status on their sleeves so you have no clue they partake unless they let you in their circle. Doctors, lawyers, prosecutors, cops, therapists, CEOs and many more smoke on a regular basis. Many have great families, nice homes, nice possessions, a great job and great salaries ... all of these things completely prove your personal bias as just that .... a personal bias and completely false when trying to paint pot and pot smokers with the same, wide wide brush.
Not sure who you're referring to in regard to having all the answers but your replies are the in the same vein of the apologists for the drug war except at the opposite end of the spectrum. Because of your personal belief and singular, myopic views and experiences you toss the baby with the bathwater and label all the same, an approach never used or recognized by science and research.
Lastly, the claim of your drinking alcohol and admission of "drinking like a "fish" in your past says it all. You were blinded by the light and your type are every bit as dangerous as some of the users you assail and put down if not worse. I won't even go into the dangers of alcohol vs. pot because you've already fallen prey to rhetoric instead of facts and prefer the rhetoric but you go on drinking that booze each night (even if it's one or two) while believing the CEO or other worker who unwinds in his home with a few puffs each night is somehow beneath you. This kind of hypocrisy -always- comes full circle to bite people in the rear at some point in life whether in regard to this subject or any other. You can't maintain such false integrity for long without it affecting your personal world at some point.
And despite you being content living in denial, the government IS changing things for the first time since Bush Sr., whether you prefer to acknowledge it or not. http://www.washingtontimes.com/blog...going-after-marijuana-smokers-not-top-priori/
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Discussion in 'Questions From New Drivers' started by MacFunk, Jan 25, 2013.
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well rather weed is legalized or not...or any other drug...it still HAS NO BUSINESS in TRUCKING.....PERIOD....
and there are NO AMOUNT of studies etc that WILL EVER CONVINCE me otherwise....TRKRSHONEY and mje Thank this. -
How many people in here think it's cool to throw back some beers in the sleeper on your 10? I'm sure there is a few but won't admit it. Can't criticize marijuana smokers when you have your own guilts.
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No law that says I can't...and I don't hide in the bunk when I have a cold one.
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Partially correct.
You need to finish said beer in the first two hours of your break. You can't have anything 8 hours prior to going back on-duty.
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Wrong MNdriver.
382.207 clearly states "No driver shall perform safety-sensitive functions within four hours after using alcohol. No employer having actual knowledge that a driver has used alcohol within four hours shall permit a driver to perform or continue to perform safety-sensitive functions." -
Fine, then it's 4 hours. But you sure can't go drinking the entire 10 hours of your break.
I won't drink 8 hours before I go back to driving my truck. That's a PERSONAL choice. -
I didn't see where anyone said or implied that they did.
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And you sure didn't make it seem like you weren't.
If you want to drink on your 10, have at it. Get a little more defensive about it when someone points out there are conditions to you drinking your ice cold one and reminds you you have to be wary about the other end.
Sounds like you pound a case down when you get off the road on your home time too. That's YOUR CHOICE. Personally, I think you have better luck at Craps than trying to drink while on the road. Even if it is legal on 6 hours of your 10 hour break. Not going to be a matter of if, but when you get busted. Some states to have physical control of your vehicle, all you have to do is have the keys in the ignition.
I don't care to play those odds.
Is it your personal choice. Yop, dang skippy it is.
Is it a professional choice? Not in my professional opinion.
I know people that can put a #### lot of beer down in a 6 hour window. Enough to that I know you aren't really sober after 4 hours. And the only way to get rid of alcohol in the system is time.
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How anyone can drink that urine disguised as beer is beyond me. Unless you enjoy true craft beers, piss is essentially what your drinking. ESPECIALLY crap sold in truck stops. I don't smoke, don't care to smoke again, but of someone wants to smoke a joint on there 10, have at it. There is absolutely no difference then drinking beer on your 10. It should be regulated the same way as alcohol. Meaning, do not operate a vehicle while under the influence.
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