Made to use PC to leave shippers/receivers to benefit the company

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  1. Eddiec

    Eddiec Road Train Member

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    Tell them to put the directive in writing on the Qualcomm....
     
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  3. XroadwarriorX

    XroadwarriorX Bobtail Member

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    They do
     
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    Pepper24 Road Train Member

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  5. XroadwarriorX

    XroadwarriorX Bobtail Member

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    No problem. I've looked a bit into it and really the crux of the situation is while it may be legal to do when you run out of hours. I just don't know if it's legal to do when you actually still have hours. As other members have said this will probably come down interpretation and or at the officer's discretion. It would seem logical that if you have hours to use then you just use those to get to your safe Haven rather than PC.
     
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  6. wichris

    wichris Road Train Member

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    Doesn't mean you can drive until out of hours and then PC.
    Or drive and park on the ramp and then PC an hour to a truck stop when you're kicked off it.
     
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  7. Concorde

    Concorde Road Train Member

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    I believe that technically after pc he’s obligated to take a ten. Too lazy right now to back up my claim :)
     
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  8. Thrasher28

    Thrasher28 Road Train Member

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    If you spent 3 hours at a customer, presumably in SB and not on duty, you could just drive to the truck stop on the drive line, sleep for 7, and all would be completely legal with no grey area.

    As far as PC'ing out, I'm not sure. I would think it would be strongly frowned upon if you had hours.

    With splits, most all schedules can work out pretty well. If a company would rather you start bending the law to save that extra hour or two that a split doesn't allow for, probably better off moving on to somewhere else.
     
  9. XroadwarriorX

    XroadwarriorX Bobtail Member

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    Very true. More often than not what will happen is say I had an appointment for delivery at 7am. Drove all night to get there. They will put a load on me that picks up at 6:00 p.m. in the same city and say PC out and stay on break. They don't know how long it's going to take nor do they care lol. The idea is no matter how long I sit at that receiver to stay off duty or sleeper birth and then PC out to not interrupt my break and then continue my break once I get to a safe haven after leaving.
     
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  10. Lostmykey

    Lostmykey Medium Load Member

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    From the links others provided:
    And:
    There’s the law, and there’s company policy; I’m not really sure how log violations impact cdl, I thought it was more of a cvsa points thing and being forced to sit until legal. Whereas refusing to follow or violating company policy could get you fired.

    My company interprets the former quote as allowing a driver to not interrupt their break if started at a shipper/receiver regardless of if they have hours available; the latter quote is just a more specific scenario, if you ran out of hours driving down the road, you can’t switch but we already know the exception is ok.

    Looks legal to me, are you saying that you did this but another driver got fired for it? If the closest place was an hour away, no choice; I’ve queried my company before on similar uses while exploring options. I’ve also made a wrong turn pc’ing away in LA, turned a quick 1mi drive into an hour of rush hour traffic.
     
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  11. Chinatown

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    The other driver was threatened with firing if he did that again.
     
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