Making a broker show the cards

Discussion in 'Freight Broker Forum' started by aiwiron, Apr 17, 2012.

  1. wichris

    wichris Road Train Member

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    It's a holdover from rate regulation. On the carrier side it was to prevent a carrier that has a brokerage from brokering the loads to themselves and then the carrier paying the O/O's on the lessor percentage. Whole lot of carriers out there that continue to do it.
     
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  3. aiwiron

    aiwiron Road Train Member

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    You are correct, also to ad that many brokers with certain multiple loads in a lane have been known to chop rates on new people.

    Just a example, say a imaginary load of tomatoes out of Florida.

    Broker has 20 loads to NYC all from the same load out and to the same destination, O/O starts finding out the broker is playing with the loads and different rates. It does not take long until drivers learn that they have been taken and start complaining, but the broker swears they are not undercutting the loads.

    Now if a O/O is payed by the load or percentage you still have the right to know, regardless how you haul. Fuel surcharge is not required to be passed on but I bet it is factored in on the brokers quotes, you have all kinds of information that brokers will not pass on.
     
  4. rollin coal

    rollin coal Road Train Member

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    Sounds like socialism for lousy business people to me. The ones that don't know how or can't figure it out need to fail so they learn a lesson.
     
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  5. Clasix1055

    Clasix1055 Even when I'm wrong I'm right

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    I agree you need to bump your head every now and then if you don't have a solid plan in place (nobody's perfect) like paying for overpriced tires...not learning to do some light mechanical work by yourself...but you shouldn't be CHEATED by a shady broker...I think it helps the entire industry
     
  6. BigBadBill

    BigBadBill Bullishly Optimistic

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    Please explain this to me VERY slow, like I'm a 5th grader.

    Unless I am working for a broker on a percentage, how could a broker possibly cheat me? I seem to be missing something.
     
  7. Clasix1055

    Clasix1055 Even when I'm wrong I'm right

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    Say a broker gets a load direct that pays $2.00 mile for 1,000 miles for a total of $2,000

    Now he post the load to you at say $1.30 for a total of $1,300 thats charging 35%

    When I get the load at $1.80 for a total of $1,800 thats charging 10%

    These numbers are all fictional....but I hope that helps
     
  8. Shoestring

    Shoestring Light Load Member

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    Umm, lets say I am dumb enough to take that load at $1.30. Thats my problem not the brokers, He has a right to a profit as well.
    As with any business, its all about maximizing profit
    I entered into an agreement at said rate, doesn't matter what he is getting.
    If I work to cheap to survive why should I sue, it was my decision, I could have said no, i need $1.80. If the broker don't agree then politely hang up and call on the next load.

    However like Bill said, if it's a percentage of the load, that is another story.
     
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  9. grizzly

    grizzly Medium Load Member

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    Just because someone bought a truck and trailer doesn't give them the right to make money. Trucking is a business. Some people will do their homework and learn how to make money, and some people will fail. The only person an O/O can blame for taking cheap freight is the one looking at them in the mirror.
     
  10. aiwiron

    aiwiron Road Train Member

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    Posted this for one reason, to inform those that did not know about it. Not wanting to start a yellow shoe contest or how stupid one can be for hauling cheap freight.

    In the regulations they have buried so many things that can help the O/O and this is one of them, just a very small portion of information here.
     
  11. BigBadBill

    BigBadBill Bullishly Optimistic

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    OK, think I have beat this one into the ground with my sarcastic question. My point was the broker may have taken advantage of my poor business skills or situation and made a good profit, but that is hardly cheating me or anyone else.

    When a new broker tips their hand I am all but willing to do the same.
     
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