Making Money With C.r.england.

Discussion in 'CR England' started by skullitor, Jul 24, 2006.

  1. L.B.

    L.B. Third Generation Truck Driver

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    Why would it be the company's resposibility to make up the difference because someone drives a truck with lower MPG? :smt017If you are an O/O or L/O the MPG is your responsibility.

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  3. knighted

    knighted Bobtail Member

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    Correction here. It was a retorical question. The answer is in the post. The company does not make up anything. The O/O has a different contract and pays for the vast majority of his own fuel. The L/O pays an average of all the L/O fleet with CRE.

    So the answer is L/O's make up the difference which is a common practice.
     
  4. L.B.

    L.B. Third Generation Truck Driver

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    So is there a different reimbersment scale for O/Os? From what I remember from their website, it looks like you pay $1.25/gal for your fuel wether you are an O/O or L/O.

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  5. knighted

    knighted Bobtail Member

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    Don't believe everything on the web site. Just like their ads everything is in general.

    When you sit down and have that contract put in front of you, you had better read it through and through. I worked for these rip off artists and they just finished a huge court case.

    Here's an example:
    On their web site they have "results" of the court case and make it sound like they did nothing wrong. Go to another web site and get all the results where, in the middle of the case they changed how they did business. CRE was ordered to do FULL DISCLOSURE of all charges to L/O's.

    Yes there are 2 seperate charge systems for fuel. One to L/O's and one for O/O. Primarily because O/O with their own authority can get a different discount rate for fuel.

    Read the contracts. Don't let CRE get you into the room with a stack of documents, hand you the keys, and 20 minutes later you are driveing. That is what they want. You initial everything and sign it without reading it and you have no legal recourse.

    I'm talking fuel here not pay scale.
     
  6. skullitor

    skullitor Medium Load Member

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    Exellent advice! READ EVERYTHING VERY CAREFULLY.Better yet let your Lawyer read it first.
     
  7. lifesafight

    lifesafight Light Load Member

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    I just finished a three week on the job training program with England and I thought I would add my two cents to Englands DAC report:

    1. My trainer was a company driver who drove for England for the past eight years. He never leased a truck and he did not bounce from company to company. As far as I know he only worked for England. He told me: "You be a stupid fool to lease a truck".

    2. He told me that England gives him a $150.00 bonus anytime his student leases a truck and dipite that he still told me with a southern accent: "You be a stupid fool to lease a truck".

    3. Once he told me that he met a lease operator or lease couple (I can't recall) and they did not even have enough money to eat. He says he had to give them about $25 so they could eat.

    4. He says he once knew a woman who worked in payroll and she would know what the drivers were making. She told him: "Don't you lease a truck" because she saw that the lease operators did not make any money in general and there are exceptions.

    5. He is a company driver who gets paid .30 a mile and drives about 6,000-7,000 miles a week with a student driver. I saw on the quallcomm how much he makes per mile and the miles we drive are also on the quallcomm so I did the math. He says he makes about 1800 a week and over 90,000 a year as a company driver with England and I did the math. If you get a dedicated run you could be home every week 2.

    I'm looking to apply to a company in my area because I have loved ones that want me to be close by and if that does not work out I'll return to England and drive company. I just feel sorry for the people who fall for Englands tricks.
     
  8. bigpapa7272

    bigpapa7272 Light Load Member

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    finally good to hear some good advice on england. england is on my potential list of companies to go to school with and drive for.
     
  9. notarps4me

    notarps4me Road Train Member

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    One out of how many, 1000 bad reports? Not good enough odds for me. I read the post on what he makes as a trainer. Why make so little per mile to have to deal with all that crap and know that you work for a bottom feeding company? There are to many companys out here that are decent, pay better and you are home on weekends. Why settle for less?:biggrin_2556:
     
  10. skullitor

    skullitor Medium Load Member

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    I've met a lot of England company drivers and they are all happy working there.
     
  11. stranger

    stranger Road Train Member

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    8 years on the job and only gets 30 cents per mile!!!

    How can the owners sleep at night, doing this to drivers.. There is a word for this, thievery, and a place one day for these people.

    I made more than that in 1989. I knew the big companies were bad, but this is unreal. That is the reason they can get trainers. The pay is so low that to make any money a person has to train.

    With all the big companies buying out the smaller ones, and with more foreign competition now, the pay will be driven down to 1970's rates before long.
     
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