manditory 30 minute break goes into effect july 1st 2013 ...or so im told

Discussion in 'Truckers News' started by speedracer 1963, Jun 12, 2013.

  1. speedracer 1963

    speedracer 1963 Medium Load Member

    Jan 12, 2008
    Just when you thought the dot hacked up your log sheets too much? Here comes another puzzle to solve....

    Starting July 1, 2013, you’ll also need to factor in a mandatory 30-minute rest break into the equation when you’ve reached eight consecutive hours of On-Duty.
    When that rule takes effect, you’ll only be able to drive if you’ve taken a minimum 30-minute rest period in the previous eight hours.
  2. Giggles the Original

    Giggles the Original Road Train Member

    funny you mention that...i was just looking it up

    Petitions for Reconsideration and Replies (PDF)

    Summary of Hours-of-Service (HOS) Regulations as of July 2013
    The table below [Download PDF Version] summarizes the changes compared to current rule.
    [TABLE="class: TableFMCSA1, align: center"]
    [TH="class: LeftTableHeadFMCSA, width: 15%, align: center"]PROVISION[/TH]
    [TH="class: LeftTableHeadFMCSA, width: 35%, align: center"]PRIOR RULE[/TH]
    [TH="class: LeftTableHeadFMCSA, width: 47%, align: center"]FINAL RULE - COMPLIANCE DATE JULY 1, 2013[/TH]
    [TH="class: MiddleTDFMCSA1"] Limitations on minimum "34-hour restarts" [/TH]
    [TD="class: MiddleTDFMCSA1"] None [/TD]
    [TD="class: MiddleTDFMCSA1"] (1) Must include two periods from 1 a.m. to 5 a.m., home terminal time.
    (2) May only be used once per week, 168 hours, measured from the beginning of the previous restart. [/TD]
    [TH="class: MiddleAltTDFMCSA1, bgcolor: #ACB4BF"] Rest breaks [/TH]
    [TD="class: MiddleAltTDFMCSA1, bgcolor: #ACB4BF"] None except as limited by other rule provisions. [/TD]
    [TD="class: MiddleAltTDFMCSA1, bgcolor: #ACB4BF"] May drive only if 8 hours or less have passed since end of driver's last off-duty or sleeper berth period of at least 30 minutes. [49 CFR 397.5 mandatory "in attendance" time for hazardous materials may be included in break if no other duties performed] [/TD]
    [TH="class: LeftTableHeadFMCSA, align: center"]PROVISION[/TH]
    [TH="class: LeftTableHeadFMCSA, align: center"]PRIOR RULE[/TH]
    [TH="class: LeftTableHeadFMCSA, width: 47%, align: center"]FINAL RULE - COMPLIANCE DATE FEBRUARY 27, 2012[/TH]
    [TH="class: MiddleTDFMCSA1"] On-duty time [/TH]
    [TD="class: MiddleTDFMCSA1"] Includes any time in CMV except sleeper berth. [/TD]
    [TD="class: MiddleTDFMCSA1"] Does not include any time resting in a parked vehicle (also applies to passengercarrying drivers). In a moving property-carrying CMV, does not include up to 2 hours in passenger seat immediately before or after 8 consecutive hours in sleeper berth. [/TD]
    [TH="class: MiddleAltTDFMCSA1, bgcolor: #ACB4BF"]Penalties [/TH]
    [TD="class: MiddleAltTDFMCSA1, bgcolor: #ACB4BF"]"Egregious" hours-of-service violations not specifically defined. [/TD]
    [TD="class: MiddleAltTDFMCSA1, bgcolor: #ACB4BF"] Driving (or allowing a driver to drive) more than 3 hours beyond the driving-time limit may be considered an "egregious" violation and subject to the maximum civil penalties. Also applies to passenger-carrying drivers. [/TD]
    [TH="class: MiddleTDFMCSA1"] Oilfield exemption [/TH]
    [TD="class: MiddleTDFMCSA1"]"Waiting time" for certain drivers at oilfields (which is off-duty but does extend 14-hour duty period) must be recorded and available to FMCSA, but no method or details are specified for the recordkeeping. [/TD]
    [TD="class: MiddleTDFMCSA1"]"Waiting time" for certain drivers at oilfields must be shown on logbook or electronic equivalent as off duty and identified by annotations in "remarks" or a separate line added to "grid." [/TD]
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  3. Killer60148

    Killer60148 Light Load Member

    Im trying to get in the habit now.
  4. RickG

    RickG Road Train Member

    Jul 22, 2008
    Owensboro , KY
    Now you did it . You're going to start a fresh bunch of complaints from drivers that want to know why they can't do a restart away from their home terminal .:biggrin_25524:
  5. pattyj

    pattyj Road Train Member

    Jul 19, 2008
    Sioux City,ia
    Seriously now for many of you is this 30 minute brake going to affect your hrs?Alot of you are sitting waiting for loads,there is you 30 minute brk.Also add 30 minutes while waiting in the dock.You can make this work without a problem.
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  6. ethos

    ethos Trucker Forum STAFF Staff Member

    Mar 3, 2013
    I think it's more of them forcing it. For us night drivers it will be a bit of a problem but I will just find an independent and sit on their fuel island. I think it's stupid and unnecessary but no it shouldn't be that hard. Now the 0100-0500 restart provision is a also a slap in the face. How the heck do they know I sleep better then?
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  7. RickG

    RickG Road Train Member

    Jul 22, 2008
    Owensboro , KY
    The problem with that is if you take the break before you have 6 hours on duty you'll have to take another before your 14 is up .

    KANSAS TRANSIT Road Train Member

    Jul 28, 2011
    We just recently switched over to AOBR's on all of our trucks, it looks like the system will "adjust,update" on July 1st. It will start a second countdown clock after you start your day as to how much time you have before you HAVE to put your 30 minute stop in.

    Between this 30 minute break and no more than one reset, I am glad that we went the electronic log route, no offense, but the truth is, none of my guys are math majors, and I could see that with no second reset and having to roll hours where it could get very easy to make a mistake, or add wrong.
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  9. Creampie

    Creampie Light Load Member

    Aug 26, 2012
    Kingsport, TN
    I take a half hour a day already. I am a human, and i am not working like a illegal immigrant for nobody
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  10. windsmith

    windsmith Road Train Member

    Sep 2, 2011
    Waiting in the dock must be logged on line 4.

    For reference:

    All 4 of the conditions need to be met in order to log on line 1 after beginning your work day. Take particular note of item number 3.
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